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Cops vs. cameras: filming cops illegal

When Robert Hammonds and a friend, Brent Bredwell, finished filming a DJ show at Jazid in South Beach, it was around 3 a.m. on a Sunday in September. A few minutes later, after they jumped into a car and headed down Washington Avenue, a drunk-looking driver swerved across traffic and cut them off.

Hammonds, far left, and his friends face the wrath of Miami Beach police.
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Hammonds, far left, and his friends face the wrath of Miami Beach police.

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Hammonds leaned out the window and yelled "What the hell are you doing?" at the guy.

Next thing Hammonds and Bredwell knew, a beefy cop was pulling them over. Holding his Sig Sauer .40 caliber gun at his side, the officer angrily thrust his hand into the car through the driver-side window and waved his walkie-talkie.

"Are you a fucking idiot?" the cop screamed. "Doing that in front of me? Asshole!"

Hammonds, in the passenger seat, was discreetly filming the outburst. When reinforcements arrived to put Bredwell through sobriety tests, Hammonds kept taping and agitating. "Oh, it's martial law now!" he yelled.

Another officer gestured at Hammonds. "Take the camera," he said to a colleague. "It's evidence now. Take it."

On film, the frame shakes violently and Hammonds yells, "I do not release this camera!" But then an officer grabs it and shuts it off.

That confrontation, filmed in 2009, was the first of dozens that Hammonds and three friends caught on tape. They've paid dearly, spending thousands on legal fees and tickets, and sleeping multiple nights in county lockup. They've even seen their faces plastered on a warning flyer sent to departments around Miami-Dade County.

They're part of a simmering national fight between citizen journalists and police departments that believe subjects have no right to film them. The battle over whether cops can arrest you just for videotaping them is quickly becoming the most hotly contested corner of American civil liberties law.

"As more professionals and amateurs use equipment to record police activity, they're facing the ire of officers who just don't want to be recorded," says David Ardia, director of Harvard University's Citizen Media Law Project. "We need a clear answer from courts that this is legal, or else police officers' instincts will always be to snatch the camera."

It might seem like an open-and-shut argument — cops are public figures, after all, and they're operating in plain view on the street. But it isn't, at least in the dozen states, including Florida, that require both parties in any conversation to consent to audio recording.

Since video cameras also record voices, police argue, citizen journalists are breaking the law when they record cops without permission. Publishing cops' photos also jeapordizes their safety, says Detective Juan Sanchez, a spokesman for Miami Beach police.

Miami Police Department officers, meanwhile, say they only arrest camera-toting civilians like Hammonds when they harass cops and break the law. "When you go beyond filming to trying to piss off an officer, you're subject to arrest," says Delrish Moss, a department spokesman.

Police around the country agree with him. Last May, a man in Maryland named Anthony Graber posted a YouTube video made with a helmet camera. It showed a state trooper drawing a gun and threatening him during a traffic stop. A few days after the clip was posted, police raided Gruber's house and charged him with "illegal wiretapping."

In Massachusetts, courts have upheld several similar convictions, including one against Jeffrey Manzelli, a Cambridge sound engineer who recorded police at a public antiwar rally.

In South Florida, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) sued the City of Boynton Beach this past June on behalf of a local woman named Sharron Tasha Ford. She had gone to a movie theater to pick up her son, a minor, whom police accused of trespassing. Ford said she had "a bad feeling" about the arrest, so she took a camera with her. When she refused to stop filming, she was arrested and charged under State Statute 934.03, the "two-party consent" recording law.

"It really is a perversion of this statute to try to apply it to filming or recording what public officials are doing in public," says Randall Marshall, legal director of ACLU Florida.

Hammonds and Bredwell didn't know about the legal infighting when they pulled out their camera on Washington Avenue 16 months ago. They just acted on instinct. "It's your responsibility as an American to monitor authority and to speak up when it's being abused," Hammonds says.

Hammonds is a 30-year-old Indianapolis native with shoulder-length hair, a goatee, and a perpetually aggrieved voice. He moved to Miami five years ago to study film at Miami International University. That's where he met Bredwell, a soft-spoken, six-foot three-inch filmmaker whose father is a cop in Fort Myers.

They never planned to become police agitators. But when Bredwell tried to retrieve his seized Sony camera the day after that first incident, he says Miami Beach police claimed not to have it in the evidence room.

A week later, the friends returned to police headquarters to try again. This time, they brought a full assortment of cameras and mics. They shot footage of the cops stonewalling Bredwell again. When officers noticed the cameras, they arrested Hammonds and charged him with obstruction of justice, loitering, and trespassing. He says an officer grabbed him by his hair in an interrogation room and then locked him in a sweltering van for two hours in 90-degree heat.

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  • Blklbll 02/14/2012 8:11:00 PM

    Simple solution to all this - > Tape records without voice, its what security cameras do anyway, oo and by the way put a tag on your shirt that you ar eunder surveillance. :)

  • Mcdanjff 11/18/2011 10:09:00 PM

    oh and another thing...stop putting people face down with your knee on their neck after they are in cuffs...wtf

  • jeff 11/18/2011 10:06:00 PM

    thats a public position they hold...if they are not doing something they shouldnt who are they to object...what are they affriad of being identified later...are they not proud of the work they do...is it so unreasonble to think they should be scrutinized...just whats the objection...police if you have an answer i would love to hear the opposition

  • Bob69 09/01/2011 10:24:00 PM

    Public servants on public property, no right to privacy.

  • Guest 06/14/2011 5:24:00 PM

    Scum. The police never ask before shitting on people's privacy!

  • HAHAHA 06/07/2011 6:03:00 PM

    Im taking my camera to film pigs now

  • Beckomjo 06/07/2011 6:02:00 PM

    now what if the person being pulled over doesnt consent to the officers patrol cam recording the incident?

  • 06/01/2011 4:19:00 AM

    How can cops in Florida cite the dual consent laws when all types of video is used to monitor activities in public spaces obviously without the consent of those being filmed.

  • 02/22/2011 4:56:00 PM

    Ex Cop, Your first sentence is far too broad to be acceptable. "Any obstruction...by physical or verbal interferance...should not be tolerated", is far too empowering. Police seem to want to be able order anyone onto the ground face down at anytime because they feel threatened or are fearful for their safety. This is simply unacceptable, a certain amount of risk comes with any job, being a cop has inherently more risk than some other professions. Don't become a cop if you are just too afraid to deal with the public on at least equal footing. I know you qualified your statement by saying, "his or her lawful duties". The problem is that cops and courts often classify everything they are doing as lawful. Even if someone is stopped for a mere traffic violation, we can see them being forced to assume the prone position on the street or ground (Cops and Youtube). This is not a state of affairs that can be supported long term. Police must see the public as their superiors even when making an arrest, and especially when only making a "stop". If you are too afraid to talk to me face to face, then don't stop me. Most officers have a taser, a night stick, a gun, a partner, and nearby backup. Why are they afraid for their safety often enough to justify "Terry" stops? Sometimes an officer's fear is surely warranted and correct. But how often are "Terry" stops a tool to stretch the long arm of the law, and not strictly a safety measure? The laws should (and many under-enforced laws do) actually require better behavior from the police than they do from the citizen. This is not supposed to be an equal relationship. The officer is a servant to the people, and if she cannot handle that with class, style, and skill, he or she should just go back to being a member of the public. Instead of a system that punishes officers more severely for crime, it coddles them. How many times have you heard of an officer receiving disciplinary action when an average citizen would be facing prison or at least jail time? Again the relationship is upside down. Officers are not the only source of blame. The government seems bent on inventing as many ways as possible to raise its "states rights" over those of the people. The interest of the state or the city in collecting fines, fees, and convictions violates the right of the individual to enjoy the fruit of his labors, rights, and duties. As an example take jury nullification, why do authorities rail against its use? I've read more than one judge claim it is illegal. Why should it be? The idea that a jury could hear the prosecution's case and say to themselves, "everything the state claims is true, but this guy or gal still should not be in jail", makes sense to me. If those same twelve people chose to convict, will the state argue that they are wrong? Not likely, only if they dare say to the state, "I hear your case, and so what?", only then will their decision be labeled illegal. A state trying to increase its power is all around us. The police should not have the added burden of furthering the state's power grab agenda. It diminishes them in the eye of the public and tells the crooks that the cops have other priorities. The cops are on the payroll, they should be on the videotape too, it isn't up to them, its up to us. No government employee has a right to privacy while on the clock, period. That is the nature of public service. If you cannot stand in the sunshine, you are not serving the public.

  • Serving 02/22/2011 12:16:00 PM

    Cops look out of shape. Do they have any standards for their appearance in uniform?

  • Thomask112 02/18/2011 10:08:00 PM

    and Google street cams.

  • Ex Cop 02/18/2011 10:07:00 PM

    Any obstruction of a police officer from performing his or her lawful duties either by physical or verbal interferance or obstruction, should not be tolerated however, the laws must clearly state, without question or need for interpretation, exactly what those forms of interference or obstruction shall be. . Conversely, there should be no laws applying to citizens should that should not equally apply to law enforcement officers, elected officials or governmental employees. If a law enforcement agency is permitted to use dash and/or body cams then, the same law should apply. If the law of the state or jurisdiction prohibits filming/recording without consent of both parties, the public agencies must also abide by that same rule. If a court wiretap can be obtained by the police (or governments) upon presenting allegations of 'probable or possible unlawful activity' then, that same right should be extended to citizens based simply on the probability that those aforementioned agencies might possibly engage in unlawful activities against citizens.

  • Joaneofarc 02/17/2011 3:45:00 AM

    Unfortunately we have allowed the justice system to work against the people. Go to JoaneofArc1 on you tube and watch those videos, you will see the police actually admitting to bad behavior, threatening people and making false alligations against inocent people. Good job and keep it up!!! Everyone should be held accountable for their actions.

  • Visperas_vi 02/15/2011 10:09:00 PM

    And you americans think you have freedom..

  • SC 02/13/2011 5:49:00 PM

    TrEs said: "really...those cams don't record voice, therfore making it legal"

  • SC234 02/13/2011 5:47:00 PM

    TrEs said: "really...those cams don't record voice, therfore making it legal". Yeah, but the cops' dash cams typically *do* record voice, in addition to video.

  • TrEs 02/10/2011 10:26:00 PM

    really...those cams don't record voice, therfore making it legal........wouldn't it be better to film the polictical figures, like commissoners and mayors who really a crooked and make the little people suffer GREATLY....not the working man (PIG)

  • Jorge 02/10/2011 7:11:00 PM

    Dude, you're on to something! If you get caught at one of those "red-light" camera intersections, you can always argue that you didn't agree to a photo! :D

  • 02/10/2011 9:34:00 AM

    http://www.killercop.com/Pages/2010/CameraAction.htm

  • 02/10/2011 9:34:00 AM

    http://www.killercop.com/Pages/2010/CameraAction.htm

  • 02/09/2011 12:07:00 AM

    do some research idiot

  • Cliftonblaylock 02/08/2011 9:09:00 PM

    so your not even a tax paying citizen your husband is you're so pathetic you're the same mom that will have an id tracking chip in your kids to protect from "terrorists" because the government says so. Maybe its time to start thinking for yourself.

  • Fattymcgee58 02/08/2011 8:53:00 PM

    Wow thats the only thing you can criticize is my grammar plz the next time you comment on this page have something more insightful to say than how someones grammar warrants a ticket god your so nieve

  • 02/08/2011 4:29:00 PM

    Well, Miami cops are both crooked and cowards - of course they don't want to be filmed doing their dirty work. And filming cops actually makes them safer..

  • Ringoes_man 02/07/2011 4:50:00 PM

    If the two party rule applies to videotaping/recording public events than all security cameras and traffic cams and weather cams and web cams violate that rule.

  • 02/07/2011 3:39:00 PM

    no voice recording... thus its legal. -delete/disable the sound and then they would not violate the 2 party agreement to being recorded.

  • Hapgoodkb 02/07/2011 2:40:00 PM

    If the cops are charging under the two party consent law, how do they get away with squadcar mounted dash cams?

  • ... 02/07/2011 12:19:00 PM

    Youtube or Google "Oscar Grant BART" and witness why it is imperative not have these rights stripped from us...

  • 02/07/2011 11:10:00 AM

    Pigs.

  • 02/05/2011 2:21:00 AM

    That's a police "cop out"...."They were inciting me" 90% of these video clips are in front of my house or at the local food store we attend every single day. Wait until you see all the footage... The proof is in the pudding!

  • Mari23Lores 02/04/2011 1:58:00 PM

    No not every police car have one, why because of cost. so, no not everyone ask Regalado why Miami police don"t have one.

  • 02/04/2011 1:43:00 PM

    "Some of what you see on this video is clearly attempts to incite police officers," whines Delrish Moss, a police spokesman. Question: are police officers such babies that they react to the "incitement" posed by video cameras by going bonkers? To ask the question is to answer it. These pathetic thugs need to be fired, if not prosecuted.

  • 02/04/2011 1:39:00 PM

    So has yours. I am from Florida and I find your comments insulting and degrading. People are individuals and deserve to be judged on an individual basis. You are a disgusting individual to just generalize casual murder and exercising of murderous government authority. If anyone needs to be taken care of it is vile hateful people such as yourself.

  • 02/04/2011 1:36:00 PM

    Well, apparently it is, cause there are a lot of other countries with other governments and economies, but yet you live here. Why, instead of trying to turn the US into some kind of communist dictatorship, you just move to a communist dictatorship, save a lot of time trouble and money all around. It isn't like there aren't a lot of dictatorships to choose from.

  • Drwolf 02/04/2011 8:59:00 AM

    Record them anyway, then place charges on them for stealing and harassment and interfering with your business of filming.

  • 02/04/2011 3:29:00 AM

    Sanchez, the Miami Beach Police Department spokesman, says the trio acted suspiciously. "[They] were claiming they were filming in part for a documentary, [but] they had no credentials," Sanchez writes in an email statement. Americans used to hiss at the screen when the slimy SS officer would sidle up and demand "your papers, please", in the movies. Yeah, I went there. Hey, if the jackboot fits...

  • 02/04/2011 3:17:00 AM

    Miami Dade, Miami Beach and City of Miami DO NOT have dash cams.

  • 02/04/2011 2:38:00 AM

    dont the cops have cameras in their cars taping us? i never consented to them taping me?? wtf

  • 02/04/2011 2:33:00 AM

    If you are not doing anything wrong you have nothing to hide....officer.

  • Ed D 02/04/2011 1:54:00 AM

    It's unfortunate that the article's author is either lazy in his research or intentionally trying to mislead. Elfrink mention Graber's arrest and illegal wire-tapping charge in Maryland and then cites Manzelli's conviction in a different State as a "similar conviction". Graber wasn't convicted! In fact, a judge threw out all charges against Graber because Graber hadn't violated any LAW in audio/video taping the tax-feeding thug, who pointed a gun at him for doing nothing more than speeding.

  • 02/04/2011 1:26:00 AM

    Its DUI and he was convicted in 2008 in Lee County...according to the public records, he blew a .166, more than twice the legal limit in the State of Florida.

  • Dfg 02/04/2011 1:07:00 AM

    Did you actually watch the Man v Pig trailer? These guys are trash, not revolutionaries. Yes I agree that police have for too much power and they should be videotapes, but just take a look at how these dudes are getting their message across.

  • Guest 02/04/2011 12:57:00 AM

    Liberal justices are for LESS protection of individual civil rights?! If you truly think so, you truly ARE an ignoramus. Seriously. Ever hear of the ACLU? You think they're pinning their hopes on the likes of Alito, Thomas, and Scalia? That one little brain cell of yours must TRULY be lonely. STOP TRYING TO CON PEOPLE, Pal.

  • 02/04/2011 12:27:00 AM

    Cops are the biggest criminals out there. Here were I live they tasered a man in a car who was having a seizure and lost the ability to use one side of his body. He was trying to drive himself to the hospital and had pulled over to the side of the road and flagged a passing police car. When he was unable to follow their commands to get out of the car and couldn't speak because of the seizure, they tasered him. Cops are always shooting unarmed people who have a cell phone or something like that in their hand. They are just a bunch of pussy cowards who have to have 3 or 4 against one. One on one they lose.

  • Sjoh104041 02/04/2011 12:19:00 AM

    Watch out, the grammar police are watching :)

  • Monan 02/04/2011 12:17:00 AM

    Fascist c-suckers. IF your going to video them and post it I think it would be prudent to block out their faces.I understand that safety argument. But I think if they can video you (dashboard) and use redlight cameras, it should work both ways. If the cop is acting professionally , whats the problem? If they cant handle a little incitement and razzing from some guys with a handycam, maybe they should look for a job they are actually qualified for.

  • Mandp15 02/04/2011 12:17:00 AM

    Shows the true insecurity and complete lack of authority the police department has over the officer and his/her attitude. Bunch of punks with a badge, trespassing, pissing on the laws they swore a duty to uphold. Not everyone needs to be dealt with like a child/dirt bag. If I remember correctly, these so called "COPS" have been given the training, and it is up to the department to uphold the standard. FAIL. Someday, some officer with poor moral intention will be dispatched with extreme prejudice while committing a felony, and an honest citizen will have to pay.... oh wait.... sounds like a story where the names have been changed to protect the "innocent".

  • JT 02/04/2011 12:13:00 AM

    I'm so scared.

  • 02/04/2011 12:12:00 AM

    Your harassment has been reported.

  • Daavid1115 02/04/2011 12:10:00 AM

    Assuming what they say occurred, I couldn't agree with them more. I was a policeman for 27 years and understood that I was helping to provide a country that was open/transparent. I never understood the imperious attitude of some of my fellow officers. We must not be above the law. Good luck guys.

  • Me 02/04/2011 12:09:00 AM

    Wow. So infantile. So ignorant. So postiche

  • Aso1557 02/04/2011 12:07:00 AM

    If they're on duty and not on private time, as public employees they should have no problem being filmed if they aren't doing anything wrong. If they don't want to be filmed you can be 100% certain it's because they have something to hide. They don't want to end up like that cop in NY who got into trouble for assaulting the guy on the bike, which the video clearly showed was totally random and unprovoked, just because he felt like assaulting someone today. Now they're trying to get all these laws passed to make sure they don't get caught like that again. If anyone would like to film me doing *my* job they're more than welcome. I don't know why they'd bother but I certainly don't have anything to hide. 75% of cops--except in NY where it's more like 95%--are thugs and bullies who've figured out how to hide in plain sight--wear a uniform.

  • AnnOnaMice 02/04/2011 12:06:00 AM

    Jeopardizes, not "jeapordizes."

  • RedNeck Genius 02/04/2011 12:06:00 AM

    Wow. Living up to the name, feces. The name explains the commentary.

  • JT 02/04/2011 12:00:00 AM

    He's still alive. Why not ask him?

  • JT 02/04/2011 12:00:00 AM

    Don't cops always say, "If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about"? What are the cops worried about?

  • Darkmerchant 02/03/2011 11:48:00 PM

    I'm curious what Rodney King would make of this...

  • 02/03/2011 11:24:00 PM

    yeah, sure, capitalism is so wonderful, "libertybill" and like you call anyone idiot offline, billy respect this

  • libertybill 02/03/2011 11:16:00 PM

    "anti-communists"....? just wondering why you threw that one in there. you must be an Obama following idiot. its funny tho, how you love to spout off at the mouth about your ignorant views.....thats o.k. , you have the Liberty of doing so, thanks to this country NOT being a communist state! Hey, gotta love freedom..... just wish more people like you would respect it tho.

  • Dano180 02/03/2011 11:06:00 PM

    what about all the car cams that the police have? do they get consent when they film? I think not!

  • 02/03/2011 11:05:00 PM

    I agree, I was stripped searched and accused of selling crack. Once it wasn't found on me they let me go however I returned for the officers badge number. He refused numerous times and then stated if I asked again I would be arrested for loitering. So I did and I was then I sued them. During the pre-trial I had a chance to hear the cop tell his side of the story. He stated I ran and was refusing arrest. That day has changed me forever.

  • Drich56 02/03/2011 11:05:00 PM

    I'm sorry, but the police use "dash cam" to videotape people during a traffic stop.....

  • CopsAreCrap 02/03/2011 11:00:00 PM

    Screw the gun, its the badge that gives them power. Any of those thugs is useless without it, regardless of their firepower.

  • 02/03/2011 10:52:00 PM

    Wow. So manly. So illiterate. So fake.

  • 02/03/2011 10:51:00 PM

    Is Florida horrible in every way possible? With the Republican morons, the insane police, the destroyed environment, the Christian religious freaks, the pathetic clownish "anti-communists" and the obese hillbillies? Florida should be turned into a NATIONAL PARK. Just a few rangers, with the authority to execute poachers. It should not even be a state . A federally protected wilderness.. The people there don't deserve it.

  • Thefiendingman 02/03/2011 10:51:00 PM

    How does the 'dual consent' law work with TV crews? Are they also breaking the law or is there an exception for credentialed journalists? Same for the cameras in police cars, do they have an exception?

  • 02/03/2011 10:48:00 PM

    Some do, in-fact my local Indian restaurant cameras do "The company who put them in did my homes security will full audio", you want to go tell them thats illegal and start some jihad in a neighborhood.

  • 02/03/2011 10:44:00 PM

    Complete abuse of power as always by the police. They must be stopped by any means, or we as citizens will be lead to slaughter by these corrupt animals. Remember if ballots don't work bullets will. 6,000 Miami-Dade offices vs over 1 million citizens They cannot win, im sorry we have more firepower

  • Guest 02/03/2011 10:34:00 PM

    no, not off topic. audio recording is at the crux of this arguement. as i stated, iowa does not have this issue as it is a one party consent state. while i recorded phone calls, the same applies to video/audio recordings too. as far as sleazebag goes, my son is extremely grateful i stood up, took a stand and made sure i wasn't marginalized by the court system and had the proof to back it up.

  • Lworthingtondudewell 02/03/2011 10:26:00 PM

    And is there any further question about why cops are being shot so regularly?

  • 02/03/2011 9:47:00 PM

    Nevermind these posts. I'm just trying to unsubscribe so these useless comments quit flooding my inbox.

  • 02/03/2011 9:41:00 PM

    Nothing to see here. Move along. Move along.

  • Ace Banger, The Guru 02/03/2011 9:08:00 PM

    The facts Remain, that they are filming us ??? So, We can film "them" !!! May I suggest that EVERYONE get a pair of Video Sunglasses !!! dont share, dont tell, "They Say, We SHOULD ... I Say, We DONT ... Just Say, SHOUNT ... " http://shount.ning.com

  • 02/03/2011 8:53:00 PM

    Big Brother continues to creep into our society at a quicker pace. Cell phones with the ability to record the people who are recording you are supposed to neutralize Big Brother. The sad reality is that most people will just comment about how it's not fair and leave it at that. “Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.” ~Benjamin Franklin

  • 02/03/2011 8:44:00 PM

    Actually there are currently 12 states that are using a wiretapping law to justify their actions. This statute basically states that all parties being audio recorded must consent. These are the states:California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Washington Here's a link to some info on this law: http://libertyactivism.info/wiki/Laws_regarding_recording_conversations There have been people convicted with this law all over the country, here are some of their names. Jeremy Marks, CA Michael Allison, IL Anthony Graber MD Jeffrey Manzelli MA and the list goes on. I know, it's crazy that this can be happening in the US, but it is...... Aside from this law, law enforcement will often arrest someone filming them and charge them with whatever erroneous charge they can come up with, ie 'resisting arrest non-violently' etc.....

  • Tom 02/03/2011 8:27:00 PM

    I don't care what they were doing, they have no right to confiscate a citizen's camera if they are not charged with a crime.

  • 02/03/2011 8:20:00 PM

    IF you are a citizen you have the freedom to act responsibly and live within our society. If you don't like it, leave-- If by "it" you mean institutionalized racism and abuse etc. the answer is "If you dont like 'it' - change it! - by any means necessary"

  • Illusionofpower 02/03/2011 8:20:00 PM

    First, show me the law that it say that it is ILLEGAL to video tape the police in a public place and then I will believe this... You will not find a law that says such a thing because there is no such thing. You are allow to do any thing you want, that legal of course, in a public place, including video taping and photography, etc. It's against the Constitution and Bill of Rights if there is a law of such a matter.

  • 02/03/2011 8:09:00 PM

    the real question is , Is footage recorded during an arrest admissible in court?

  • Rchenning 02/03/2011 8:03:00 PM

    If both parties required to record do the laws apply to police dash cams also?

  • Jfb 02/03/2011 8:01:00 PM

    Keep up the fight. These crooked A$$ cops need to learn to stop abusing there powers.

  • 02/03/2011 8:00:00 PM

    Bad cops who don't like being sh*t with a camera should take care, lest they be sh*t with something else. In my rural community, I view law enforcement as a much greater threat than the few criminals we have. They hate public scrutiny because their methods are often evil. So in their little flea brains, "observing" an officer equals "interfering" with one, and can result in arrest, even without a camera or tape recorder.

  • LezlieLU 02/03/2011 7:57:00 PM

    I agree with the last statement. I respect the police and the job they're charged with doing; but I also believe that in any interaction with police, you need to have a record of what occurred. The police MUST have the powers they're given, but there also has to be an offset to balance the voice of the citizen against the authority police are given.

  • Tom W HammondTom_hammond 02/03/2011 7:56:00 PM

    Go guys go...Lets keep it all out in the open......Most police cars today are equiped with camers.....Whats good for the goose is good for gander

  • 02/03/2011 7:53:00 PM

    Just to acknowledge those comments that Assume that we are somehow antagonizing, 'asking for,' and/or endangering cops....... We are in the middle of this battle; Not by choice. When police overstep their boundaries with citizens, it is up to us to stand up. Our country is great BECAUSE people fought for the Rights we take for granted. I realize a lot of people don't agree with how we went about it...But it was out of frustration and a feeling of hopelessness about the current direction of our Civil Liberties. When you are being arrested simply for HOLDING UP A CAMERA or for practicing FREE SPEECH it is very difficult to not want to resist and ask 'Why am I being arrested?' Not to mention that simply allowing them to take you in leads to all kinds of disruption in your lives. Some of us have lost our jobs because the police arrested us solely under a 'Resisting arrest non-violently' charge and we had to spend a day in jail. Tag on the Bail $, time and money spent fighting the case (5 grand for a lawyer), etc.... It becomes a serious commitment. We are willing to go the distance because we feel that this is a crucial National issue that is challenging our 1st Amendment; All the way to the Supreme if need be. They will keep trying to push us back little by little until we are living in a police state, If we allow them to. A lot of police are out of line, the only thing that can stop them is Transparency and holding them Accountable. Who polices the police? The Camera doesn't lie! "When one cannot hold up a camera as a documentarian and record what is happening in public, undeniably tyranny is at hand."

  • 02/03/2011 7:53:00 PM

    ...and then the cop goes red-faced as they fly into roid rage and start beating you as they scream "STOP RESISTING! STOP RESISTING!" for the benefit of their own dash cam that you are conveniently out of view of.

  • cwsculptor 02/03/2011 7:53:00 PM

    And Oscar Grant in Oakland.

  • Jestifer2016 02/03/2011 7:50:00 PM

    Easy solution is to request consent from the police officer to video tape the traffic stop. IF they refuse then you request the footage from the dash camera to be provided to you as evidence for your defense case.

  • Winszal09 02/03/2011 7:47:00 PM

    Saying that these guys are "jerks" and acting "ridiculously" are subjective terms and prove or say very little. Please clarify how they are "endangering" anyone. If you cant do so then your rants are pointless. Cameras keep people honest, including police. They can exonerate EITHER side. I always thought the mantra was, ya know, something along the lines of, "only those who have something to hide..", oh you know the rest silly.

  • B C 02/03/2011 7:46:00 PM

    Thugs in Egypt are also encarcerating camara men (journalists, their producers etc.), there we know why they do it, but USA police doing this ! ! If in fact this young people were acting stupid, than the film should be the evidence. They have TV shows that record people without permission embarrasing not only the people detained but their families, and they are so touchy about them being film?

  • Koal1 02/03/2011 7:44:00 PM

    pigs........f'em

  • Suck MeOff 02/03/2011 7:41:00 PM

    Oh yeah, I'm sure Rodney King would agree with it being illegal to video tape the police.

  • 02/03/2011 7:39:00 PM

    The cops are not your friends. Period. There's a reason why they were once called "peace officers", and are now "law enforcement officers". Out west, a couple of years ago, cops were called via 911 for a burglary, accidentally shot the homeowner instead, dragged him outside to (hopefully) die so he couldn't testify, and tried to cover it up. They are not your friend. They have more rights than you. They can "accidentally" kill you with their gun "going off" and face no penalty, as the blue wall will protect them. And if they go into roid rage, as so many cops do with so many cops on steroids, that's more likely than not. Cops are not your friends. A police car is akin to a hornet's nest, something you don't want to stir up, lest it sting you...

  • Mtvskank 02/03/2011 7:39:00 PM

    You people who are standing up for nazi behavior to outlaw videotaping of an officer deserve that scary day when you are sucking on a gun in a back alley courtesy of some inbred chimp of a police officer with a insecurity complex about themself. Obviously if they truly understand the power they are granted is supposed to be used on real criminals, you know the ones making meth, pimping out teenagers, real crime, you see these punks in their little UPS shorts are tough with handing out tickets for the city slush fund, but couldnt hold their own busting up a drug gang ring or the real bad guys out there. People run for office, learn local civil law. Educate your children early about the hypocricy and change the laws, make the fools with guns and pituitary imbalance move to mexico and be cops if they are so tough. Untill the people wake up and take responsibility for the localities, the status quo will continue to ratchet up the control until you have to buy a freedom license with levels of freedom to exercise based on your package. "Oh you are not allowed to drive for leisure today, only for work, heres a suspension of your rights for sixty days so you learn your lesson. Oh but these connected wealthy individuals can screw at their desired location because they have a premium freedom license. God isnt gonna reach down and change things people, It starts within every one who knows they are not educating and being active.. .

  • Suck MeOff 02/03/2011 7:39:00 PM

    So if I don't provide concent to the police video taping me via the dash board camera OR by means of a red light or speed monitoring camera it cannot be used as evidence against me? And they call what's going on in Egypt fighting for democracy? We cannot even protect ourselves from public figures? This is just another chapter in The Patriot act putting the governments intrusion before our right to liberty.

  • Corbettw 02/03/2011 7:32:00 PM

    One sec, how are they endangering anyone by filming something in public? Please expand on that concept.

  • Jfb 02/03/2011 7:30:00 PM

    Whatever, wake up we are living in a Police State. Only really a few good Cops. Get a clue BWA

  • justwondering 02/03/2011 7:27:00 PM

    Why is it legal for Cops to video tape routine traffic stops from dashboard mounted cameras in their squad car (without the citizens knowledge or consent) but its not ok for citizens to videotape their interactions with cops? If police officers are doing their job right and within the law, they should have no problem with being videotaped.

  • Riu 02/03/2011 7:25:00 PM

    Exactly, if they had nothing to hide then they wouldn't react so viciously. MiamiDade cops are hardcore because they deal with some of the worst. They still need to act at higher level if they claim to be such.

  • 02/03/2011 7:25:00 PM

    They don't record sound.

 
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