Christian right leader George Rekers takes vacation with "rent boy"

Christian right leader George Rekers takes vacation with "rent boy"
Brandon K. Thorp
George Rekers and "Lucien" at Miami International Airport.

The pictures on the Rentboy.com profile show a shirtless young man with delicate features, guileless eyes, and sun-kissed, hairless skin. The profile touts his "smooth, sweet, tight ass" and "perfectly built 8 inch cock (uncut)" and explains he is "sensual," "wild," and "up for anything" — as long you ask first. And as long as you pay.

On April 13, the "rent boy" (whom we'll call Lucien) arrived at Miami International Airport on Iberian Airlines Flight 6123, after a ten-day, fully subsidized trip to Europe. He was soon followed out of customs by an old man with an atavistic mustache and a desperate blond comb-over, pushing an overburdened baggage cart.

That man was George Alan Rekers, of North Miami — the callboy's client and, as it happens, one of America's most prominent anti-gay activists. Rekers, a Baptist minister who is a leading scholar for the Christian right, left the terminal with his gay escort, looking a bit discomfited when a picture of the two was snapped with a hot-pink digital camera.

George Rekers and "Lucien" at Miami International Airport.
Brandon K. Thorp
George Rekers and "Lucien" at Miami International Airport.

Reached by New Times before a trip to Bermuda, Rekers said he learned Lucien was a prostitute only midway through their vacation. "I had surgery," Rekers said, "and I can't lift luggage. That's why I hired him." (Medical problems didn't stop him from pushing the tottering baggage cart through MIA.)

Yet Rekers wouldn't deny he met his slender, blond escort at Rentboy.com — which features homepage images of men in bondage and grainy videos of crotch-rubbing twinks — and Lucien confirmed it.

At the small western Miami townhome he shares with a roommate, a nervous Lucien expressed surprise when we told him that Rekers denied knowing about his line of work from the beginning. "He should've been able to tell you that," he said, fidgeting and fixing his eyes on his knees. "But that's up to him."

For decades, George Alan Rekers has been a general in the culture wars, though his work has often been behind the scenes. In 1983, he and James Dobson, America's best-known homophobe, formed the Family Research Council, a D.C.-based, rabidly Christian, and vehemently anti-gay lobbying group that has become a standard-bearer of the nation's extreme right wing. Its annual Values Summit is considered a litmus test for Republican presidential hopefuls, and Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter have spoken there. (The Family Research Council would not comment about Rekers's Euro-trip.)

He has also influenced American government, serving in advisory roles with Congress, the White House, and the Department of Health and Human Services and testifying as a state's witness in favor of Florida's gay adoption ban. A former research fellow at Harvard University and a distinguished professor of neuropsychiatry at the University of South Carolina, Rekers has published papers and books by the hundreds, with titles like Who Am I? Lord and Growing Up Straight: What Families Should Know About Homosexuality.

"While he keeps a low public profile, his fingerprints are on almost every anti-gay effort to demean and dehumanize LGBT people," says Wayne Besen, a gay rights advocate in New York City and the executive director of Truth Wins Out, which investigates the anti-gay movement. "His work is ubiquitously cited by lobby groups that work to deny equality to LGBT Americans. Rekers has caused a great deal of harm to gay and lesbian individuals."

Rekers is a board member of the National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH), an organization that systematically attempts to turn gay people straight. And the Huffington Post recently singled out Rekers as a member of the American College of Pediatricians — an official-sounding outfit in Gainesville that purveys lurid, youth-directed literature accusing gays of en masse coprophilia. (In an email, the college's Lisa Hawkins wrote, "ACPeds feels privileged to have a scholar of Dr. Rekers' stature affiliated with our organization. I am sure you will find Prof. Rekers to be an immaculate clinician/scholar, and a warm human being.")

Rekers lectures worldwide, from Europe to the Middle East, on teen sexuality. Yet during his ten-day sojourn with Lucien to London and Madrid, he had no lectures scheduled. Both men deny having sex on the trip, and emails exchanged between the two before their jaunt are cautiously worded.

"I'd like to propose another trip to Rome, Italy, for a week or more," Rekers wrote in an email dated March 21 obtained by New Times. "This is so exciting to have a nice Travel Assistant and traveling companion! Wow! I'm so glad I met you."

"I called and talked to the reservation guy in London and reserved a room with two twin beds," Rekers wrote on March 26.

"Now that I'm packed, tomorrow I'll work on completing my income tax return," Rekers wrote two days later. "Not fun... But I'll just remind myself that the fun trip is coming soon."

In his interview with New Times, Lucien didn't want to impugn his client, but he made it clear they met through Rentboy.com, which is the only website on which he advertises his services. Neither Google nor any other search engine picks up individual Rentboy.com profiles, any more than they pick up individual profiles on eHarmony or Match.com. You cannot just happen upon one.

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sanebrain
sanebrain

Rekers suffers from Stockholm Syndrome. He has been captured in a anti-gay society all his life and now he acts as if he is the bravest member of that anti-gay society, until the wee hours fo the night or the days he thinks is not observed. I pity him. I am sad for all the men and women who have had to go through life in the same way. I don't care what anyone, including Rekers, in the privacy of their own home.

Whether you like it or not, homosexuality is not a preference. It is not genetic. It is caused by the exposure of harmones at key levels at key times. The reproductive system is an imperfect system that even when it works to the norm creates imperfect men and women. Frankly, I would far rather have it create loving, bonded heterosexuals and loving, bonded homosexuals, male or female, than sociopaths and serial killers.

Next time you see two men or two women holding hands, be happy. If you leave them alone in their love, they will leave you alone with yours.

Jon
Jon

The sodomites have infiltrated all echelons of our society, and need to be expelled soon.

Guest
Guest

um...Rekers is gay. End of story....

You don't go to a website called RentBoy and actually PAY to "rent a boy" and not have some homosexual inclinations...we'll never know if they had sex...but something not 100% heterosexual certainly occured.

Andrew
Andrew

Well, Dr. Rekker had a good time. That is all I care about.

Gene Dexter
Gene Dexter

Scribes and Pharasees, Hyprocrites! Or whatever it is people say in their self righteousness. **GlassHouses**.

An old asian proverb - He who bangs the empty drum makes the most noise. (Or the rentboy?!)

Amuro20
Amuro20

Am I the only one disturbed to read how he adopted a 16yr old boy four years ago?

tobin1
tobin1

I guess he misunderstood about having a man-date from above....

Gregory Castillian
Gregory Castillian

I agree George Rekers is a monster who should be jailed for the murder of Kirk Andrew Murphy but since that is not going to happen he should be hunted everyday, he should have no rest and no peace in his life ever, and a mark should be placed on him so other humans learn to stay away from this animal. In my opinion he is know different from Dr. Mengele. Yes George Rekers needs a personal one way ticket to speak to his master and quick.

Hoffman770
Hoffman770

Its always the biggest closet queens who yell the loudest about how horrible being gay is and how it can be eradicated. This guy should be investigated to the fullest.

theworldofmarla
theworldofmarla

One thing that may seem unlikely but explains his duality--many people who do evil things can do so only because they really think they're helping. He's obviously a self-hating gay and it's too bad our society makes gay people hate themselves. I nearly fell out of my chair from the last paragraph about taking in young men as foster children. That's so f*cked up. I wonder if he's aware of what happens to pedos in jail.

Atlkevin2004
Atlkevin2004

George Rekers has to be one of vilest human beings to ever walk the face of the Earth.

allie
allie

I just love the fact that this idiot is a foster care provider...he needs to be investigated and charged for murder while they're at it.

Terri's Little Haven
Terri's Little Haven

It's sad that the young man in Reikers "sissy boy experiment" killed himself for feeling different. I can't believe Reker ordered the young mans father to give him beatings when he sowed feminine traits, yet Reker turns out a homo himself. I'm at a loss of words. Someone needs to be held accountable for that death.

Jmac
Jmac

This is a very bias post. Period. Thumbs down.

Lynne Gordon
Lynne Gordon

And here we go again....

This may be the last time I drop this bomb, as many of you have heard me say it before... CHRISTIANS do not care one whit about whether you are gay or not!

This is all propaganda to keep us little sheep baying, clawing and gnawing at each other so that we are unable to see how the elitist who foment these lies are robbing us blind.

Christian preachers and ministers are men and women and all have sexual urges that they must struggle everyday to keep in check. Many of them use their pulpit (like this pedophile) and sell their souls in it every week by bashing gays... and the very people in their congregation have many gay sons, daughters, uncles, aunts, nieces and nephews in their own families. This tells you that their crap from the pulpit is all about their guilt and shame and has nothing to do with Christianity.

People say that the Bible specifically says that, "Man should not lie with man", and it does... but the Bible also says that "servants (blacks?) should obey their masters (whites?) and who is willing to go back there? The fact is that you can NEVER read the Bible with any measure of understanding without the help of the Holy Spirit. That's not my law, that's God's law.

I think the bigger point here is that unless we wake up and realize that we are all one consciousness, we will be divided, tagged, conquered and peering through the bars of some concentration camp before the century is out.

If you are gay and you do not go to church and worship because of that... then that is your greatest sin. Don't be deceived, Satan and that demon whose name is "Queer" will do everything they can to keep you out of church and worship - it is up to you to live this one life you have been given to the best of your ability.

If you are Christian, then it is wayyy past time you realized that sin is not in the body, it is in the soul. If that were the case there are plenty of overweight Christians whose entire life is a sin and they are in church every Sunday and Wednesday.

We must evolve and rise above the manipulations of those who would keep us separate. We are all made from love and we all came from love... and we will all go back to that same love as long as we live in accordance with love.

Open your eyes. Open your heart. Open your mind.

P.S. Yes there is a Hell and the people who go there when they die are devoid of love and not because they chose a different type of physical love while on this earth.

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I was gay, friend, but my Lord God was gracious to me: Не released me from this disgrace!__________Hi, friend! My name is Gregory. I live in Kiev in Ukraine. I ask to read everything to the end - this is very important for you. I was a gay . But I am free now! For me all changed, when Jesus Christ - my Lord God, entering for everybody on earth on a cross, to atone the sins of everybody, became reality for me, by foundation of my life. I plead with you, brother, correct a way it, lay knees before That, Who humiliating Itself to the level by man- God, creating Heaven and earth and creating a man "man on appearance to It, on appearance God created him; created a man and woman them" (Being 1: 27), came on earth in a human body, that dead on Golgotha cross, to become expiation for sins still human, and, being revived third day by His Celestial Father, to sit to the right from God-Father on His Throne! About 2000 years ago "Jealousy of Lord Savaof did make it!" "God so has loved the world that has given the Son only-begotten that everyone believing in Him was not lost, but had the Eternal Life! " (The Gospel from John 3:16) That there is a love! "The love does Suffers a long time, create s favour , love does not envy, the love is not extolled, is not proud, does not commit excesses, does not search for the, is not irritated, does not think of harm, does not rejoice to a lie, and Rejoices to true ; all covers, to all trusts, all hopes, all transfers. The love never ceases, though both prophecies will stop, and languages will stop, and the knowledge will be abolished". (1 Message of Apostle Paul to Corinthians 13:4-8) The LOVE has been crucified for you on Golgotha! Jesus has told:" LOVE can not more then that love as if who will put in a victim his soul for the friends. You are My friends, if execute that I give a precept to you. I any more do not name you slaves for the slave does not know that its mister does; but I named you friends because has told to you everything that heard from My Father. "(The Gospel from John 15:13-15) I Beg you, friend, incline your knees in the Face God," cry and be distressed "," go in beggar tear clothes and strew a head ashes." "Thou shalt not lie with a male as with a woman, because it is an abomination!" (Leviticus 18: 22) "You are not deceived: neither fornicators, nor that serve idols, nor adulterers, nor effeminate by perversion, nor men, which have sexual intercourses with male, thieves, nor the covetous, drunkards, nor reviles, predators do not inherit Lord's Kingdom ! " (1 Message of Apostle Paul to Corinthians 6 9-10), for the muscle of Dominical Hand was not reduced to rescue subdued by Spirit!" It is blissful, to whom lawlessnesses are released, and whose sins are covered! The person to whom the Lord will not make a sin is blissful, and in whose spirit there is no slyness!" (David's psalm 31:1-2) the Way on which there is now you and went earlier I, conducts straight in the Hell to eternal torments and sufferings and I do not want, that you were com prehended by this malicious fate. What reasons of that, friend , what occurs to you? Whether you know it? And they are that:" For the anger God from the sky on everyone dirty and a lie people, suppressing true lie opens. For that it is possible to know about God, it is obvious for them because God showed to them. For invisible It, Its eternal force and the Deity, from world creation through examining of creations are visible, so they are meek. But as they, having known God, have not glorified Him as God, and have not rendered thanks, but they have fussed in the their speculations, and their foolish heart was saddened; naming itself wise, have gone mad, and glory of imperishable God have changed in an image similar to the perishable person, both birds, and four-footed, and a reptile, - that and was betrayed by their God in lusts of their hearts nasty things so they have profaned bodies. They have replaced God's True with lie, both worshipped, and creatures instead of the Creator Who is blest in eyelids , Amen. Therefore their God to shameful passions has betrayed: their women have replaced the natural use unnatural; Similarly and men, having left the natural use of a female, were kindled by lust against each other, men on men doing shame and receiving in to itself due punishment for the error. And as they did not care to have God in reason their God to has betrayed dirty mind- to do not correct dirty actions so they are executed any lie, fornication, slyness, a self-interest, rage, are executed envy, murder, conflicts, a deceit, having evil customs, Filled with malicious speech, slanderers, God haters, offenders, self-praises, are proud, inventive on harm, are disobedient to parents, are reckless, perfidious, ignorant love, are irreconcilable, ungracious. They know just court God that doing such affairs are worthy death; however not only them do, but also doing approve." (To Romans of Apostle Paul 1:18-32) - I have passed the message through it. In spite of the fact that I was not the atheist, I was very far from God, did not give a proper attention to the God's Word. Therefore have comprehended, was, me the same problems, as at you now. But not God has created you such, and a sin of disobedience to God did it with you! I will try to explain to you, friend, still some moments. Whether you understand the reason of what you pulls to unisex relations? How you understand the fragment of the Writing resulted above? All reason, I wrote, that people, having known God, "do not think" to have Him in the heart, leave Him. It can result as personal recreancy of the person when results, so to say, "do not keep itself waiting long, and also deviations of ancestors. Here the two first Precepts which God gave still to Moses, "works" : "I am Lord, your God Who has deduced you from the earth Egyptian, from the slavery house; yes there will be no at you other gods before My person. Do not do to itself an idol and that any image that in the sky above, and that on the earth below, and that in water below the earth; do not worship to them and do not serve them, for I the Lord, your God, God the adherent punishing children for fault of fathers to the third and fourth sort, hating Me, and creating favour to thousand sorts loving Me and observing My precepts. Do not say a name of the Lord, your God, it is vain, for the Lord will not leave without that punishment who says Its name in vain". (The Outcome 20:2-7 and 5 Moses’s Book : Reiteration of Law 6-11) It occurs not because God malicious as can seem at first sight. Simply receding from the Lord, the person makes room for a devil in the life which perverts all fine in the person. Accordingly, people cease to follow the decision of God:" Set the young man at the beginning of its way and he will grow old and will not get off! "(Parables of Solomon 22: 6) Cease to learn their children to love God! But " only I know intentions what I have about you, the Lord, intentions in the blessing, instead of on harm speaks to give you future and hope. "(Book of prophet Jeremy 29:11) as "God is Love! "(John's 1 message 4:8) Both that aspects are take place in my case. Anyway, the brother, at you is possibility to interrupt this damnation which has hung over them come "to bear worthy fruits of the Repentance" to the Lord: to confess sincerely and to leave this nasty thing of one hollow relations as I have once made! Sodom and Gomora have been wiped off the face of the earth because of that nasty thing that their men created, "being raised by a flesh" on each other. It has so absorbed inhabitants of these cities that the Lord has not found among them and 10 righteous persons, when has descended to ruin these cities! Avram before it begged about mercy for these people. The necessary quantity of righteous persons for the pardon of cities with initial 50 has decreased gradually to 10 in the course of entreaty, and their God has not found! The same fate expected also Nenevia after a while, but she "has confessed from the sermon Iona" and has been pardoned!On True I speak to you, the brother:" everyone who will call the Name of Lord, will escape! "(The Gospel from Galatians 11:12) Is written:" the Celestial Kingdom undertakes by force and putting efforts admires Him! "(The gospel from Galatians 11:12) Force in the Sacred blood spilt for you on Golgotha, but is necessary to struggle much to win," till it bleeds to battle to a sin, "-" winning God willing to taste from the Life Tree that among Paradise God! "(John's revelations 2:7) Jesus has told:" Truly, Truly I speak to you if who is not born from above, cannot see God's Kingdom, (….) truly, truly I speak to you if who is not born from water and Spirit, cannot enter in God's Kingdom "(the Gospel from John 3: 3, 5) It is very important, the brother, - is written also:" the Spirit of the person transfers its infirmity; and the amazed spirit - who can support it? "(Solomon's Parables 18:15) - spirit amazed with a sin can cure parables of Solomon can only God -" All I can in Jesus Christ strengthening me "(the message to Philippians of Apostle Paul 4:13) and" there is no other Name under the sky, given people to which had for them to Escape! "(Acts of Apostles 4:12)" Appeal to Me and I will hear you both I will answer you and I will show you that great that you did earlier not see!" (Book of prophet Jeremy 33:3) speaks Lord. - sincere the repentance before God when the person recognises the negligibility and powerlessness before God, recognises the sinfulness and asks It to be the mister of all his life, - there is a birth from God's Spirit , the Birth is more exact there is a result of a sincere repentance. The birth from water this water christening - contract signing good luck to live and serve It with pure and kind conscience. To you I will not say to you, the brother, what to you becomes easier at once and will not be and there will be no temptations - the Satan will be faster is not interested in that you have won a sin - it will throw the big forces against you even more difficult - but what you will do – will have fights with a sin or to obey it? - God speaks: "Arrive on Spirit and will not execute flesh desire!" (The message to Galatians of Apostle Paul 5: 16), that is, executing the Dominical Word, you will not sin. I can tell that probably there will be also falling, that is a condition when the person not in a condition to cope with a sin. I endured it, but you despair surrender, admit before God the offences and the best friend - the person to which you can trust completely that it will not incur it as a gossip another and not begins to do anything such that you have again sinned, and to do the utmost to help you to stand: it is written: "Admit the friend before the friend offences and pray the friend for the friend to recover: the strengthened prayer of the just much can." (The message of Apostle Jacob 5:16) because "if we profess our sins He (God), being it is true and just, will forgive us our sins and will clear us of any lie." (John's 1 Message 1:9) - "the righteous person seven times will fall and will rise, the sinner once will fall in death!" (Parables of Solomon 24:16) God tells: "search for Me when it is possible to find Me, call Me when I close!" Listen to a good advice: search sincerely for believing people to Lord Jesus Christ in a city, where do you live, to be with them in the general prayer and dialogue, studying of the God's Word - Bibles, - that your Belief became stronger: "the Belief from hearing, and hearing from the God's Word " (the Message to Romans of Apostle Paul 10:17), the Belief Prayer cures spirit, soul and a body of the person. God speaks: "there where two or three are collected in My Name (for the sake of dialogue with Me), there and I among them!" (The Gospel from Matthew 18:20) And still, the brother, I ask you: "darings from itself all dirty" - break off any acquaintances to people which push you on a sin, get rid of all your house, connected with a pornography of any sort if is, differently it will be more difficult to you to be pulled out from all it: there are three things on which all sin human is based:" Lust of a flesh, lust of eyes and pride everyday" I Beg you, friend, make a correct choice! Not be indifferent to the future! Learn Lord's fear to find wisdom, and having found wisdom, you" learn True and the True will make you free! "(The Gospel from John 8:32) Jesus has told:" I am the Way True and the Life; nobody comes to the Father, as soon as through Me! "(The Gospel from John 14:6)" Be firm and courageous!" "With fear and trembling make the Rescue!" (The message to Philippians of Apostle Paul 2: 12) Force of BLOOD of the CHRIST is perfect! Strengthen the brothers when you will be screwed!" "So, if the Son releases you will be truly free!" (The Gospel from John 8:36) Lets the Lord will bless you! Let Words : "And such were some of you, but purified and sanctified and justified the blood of Jesus Christ and the Spirit of our God!" (1 Message of Apostle Paul to Corinthians 6 11) tru in your life! I will pray for you, friend! ___________If you want told with me about this , you can write me at parusimov@ukr.net, friend.

Linda
Linda

I usually don't comment on online articles, but I *have* to write that this is one of the best-written articles I have read. Bullock or Thorp, you write marvelously and the tone carries well. That being said, the last paragraph made my stomach drop :(

Frank
Frank

This is the first time I've seen "luggage" used as a euphemism for "scrotum."

Daisy Varela
Daisy Varela

That's what I say:The most homophobic people is the one that is still living in the closet!

Shalalala
Shalalala

So sexism is self hatred?Maybe that explains gay bashing? racism?How would you define my ha&% (very strong four letter word that means dislike) for organized religion?These so called evangelists ought to be hung by their scrota and bashed with baseball bats til the grey matter oozes out their ears.What? THAT's father bashing?Oh no...So. I hate myself, too?I'm confused.

Derek Williams
Derek Williams

yup there are plenty of examples where the biggest homphobes turn out to have been doing all their anti-gay rhetoric to make sure no-one would find out they were gay themselves, a practice usually formed at high school where they were surrounded by anti-gay bullying and violence. Understandable in such a context, but no less sickening. Another example is Roy Ashburn, anti-gay senator who recently came out.

Roman Sverdlov
Roman Sverdlov

I know that he is gay and lying, but since he is desperate, here is what I would have said it I was him:

He wanted a "boy" to "rent" in order to carry the laggage. He didn't know any sites, so he just tried to guess by putting these two words together, and came up with "rentboy.com". He tried it, WOW it worked: there is in fact that site! After being tired of making up other sites and finding out at they didn't exist, he went for it.

Now, in the terms of services they say what it is, and you have to click "agree" button. But we all know that terms of services are long and none of us have patience to read them; we just scroll down and click it (well thats what I always do anyway), so he probably did the same.

Then he came across all these graphic images. But he decided that these are simply a spam. A lot of sites get spammed, so he decided this site got spammed too.

Then when he clicked a particular "boy" he wants to rent, he found out that he is without a shirt. Well, he decided that he was just showing his muscles in order to tell you how much he can carry (after all, his assumption was that rentboy is for renting boys to carry stuff). So he hired him.

Now if the above excuse doesn't work, here is another one: it is a good way of keeping a prostitute from sinning by paying him/her for NOT having sex. After all he/she is looking for MONEY, not sex; sex is just a way of earninng that money. So if you give him/her the same amount of money and NOT have sex with him/her, that would save him/her from having to sin these few days.

And then we can always try a combination of the above: first he thought that rent boy is just for carrying luggage; but later when he realized it is about prostitutes he decided "wow, lord probably lead me to help out a prostitude to stay away from sin, lets do that"

Finally, as far as letting the rent boy to touch him, may be he was doing the "touch therapy" (see this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... ). Yes they touched sexual organs. But he only did that as a means of "transition", just like a smoker has to have a "transition period". So, as they both admit, they did not have sex. But he figured that may be they should do some toucvhing so that the rent boy will not be looking forward for sex with new clients, since he would think he enjoys the touch; but meanwhile the touching will slowly decrease.

Of course, no straight man will ever enjoy another men touching him. But he didn't enjoy it either. He simply forced himself to suffer in his desperate attempts to save the other men; as Jesus said "bear your cross daily".

And finally, he didn't tell him that htis was his motivation because he was afraid that the rentboy, having no intentions to be cured, would not agree with the "treatment". And, even after the "treatment" was done, he still didn't want to tell this because he didn't want to hurt his feelings. But finally he decided to come out and tell the REAL truth: he never enjoyed the touch and only endured it for the purposes of the treatment of that young man.

Kevin
Kevin

I guess the only thing that would be "hard" evidence would be to videotape him having sex with a male prostitute. And even then since he's so much on the inside (no pun intended) with the Right Wing (nut) fringe I'm sure he'd be forgiven for such a lapse in "judgment".These people are very scary.

carrotjuse
carrotjuse

@Jon "The sodomites" have existed in every community, village, town, and city in every country, on every continent, in every century throughout recorded history, and probably before.  It's going to be hard to expel all of them, all over the world.  Where will they go, Jon?  In addition, since there have been 468 species of animals and birds which have exhibited same-sex behavior, you'll have to find all of them too.

You'd better get busy!  Heterosexual couples are breeding gay babies everyday, even as we speak.  Hurry!

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ralph lauren big pony

George Rekers needs a personal one way ticket to speak to his master and quick.

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fred perry sale

whatever it is people say in their self righteousness.

Chris Ennis
Chris Ennis

I know that you have good intentions here and I was on board with your statements....until I finished reading the small segment referring to your bible. Your first sentence there was wonderful and made some impact with me. Then it went on by saying that we need the holy spirit (I don't do capitals) in order to understand it. I'm sorry, but that really doesn't make a bit of sense to me.

Your post seems to make perfect sense on one thought and make absolutely zero sense on the next...back and forth, back and forth (and so on). So it's someone's greatest sin if they don't go to church because their either lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgendered? I thought APOSTASY was the greatest cardinal sin.

I'm a gay man myself, but I didn't leave the church (growing up Catholic) because I was gay. I left because I came to terms with death, despised those highest up on the religion chain of their mighty hypocrisy and sex crimes.....and simply because I didn't really believe most of what was spoonfed to me. I reject the claims. Apparently, I'm going to spend eternity in "Hell" because of this. Hmmm....I guess believers just know more about the big picture than non-believers, right?

If you believe, then that's fine. Some of us just don't need faith when we already use logic. If one is indoctrinated (I'm sorry...raised) into a religion and agree with it all for years (in your case, Lynne....decades), one will naturally tend to defend it with vigor without having much interest in finding out the plethora of information which can obviously trump their claims.

You didn't type this, but "That's just how I was raised...no offense" would NEVER cut it with me. Never. Neither would the threat of "Hell" just because someone doesn't believe in a god someone else DOES. It's nonsensical, condescending and infantile.

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Lynne Gordon, wtf is wrong with you? You are stating that if gays do not go to church or worship " then that is your greatest sin?" Do you really think that one sin is greater than another since the cross? THIS is what is f***ed up with people like you trying to represent god. How can you, as a finite person, fully wrap yourself around that which is infinite?

Sin is sin in the eyes of the one who created all. There is no such thing as a "greatest sin" but people like you love to create that idea and then pin it on gays. Go ahead, take your bible scripture out of context and disregard who said what you are quoting, when they said it, who it was said to, the current culture in which it was spoken, disregard whether or not it was written during the old covenant or after the cross, and disregard everything else that was said before and after it. Take it out of context and use it to cram ur version of things down everyone else's throats!

All of us have sinned and fallen short of god's glory, including YOU Lynne Gordon and your sin is just as abominable in the eyes of god as a couple of gay dudes sodomizing one another. Its all the same since the cross. You are a travesty, Lynne Gordon, and a self righteous pharisee who, like the priests in the story of the good Samaritan, always walk on the opposite side of the street from those who are broken and suffering in order that you might stay clean. THAT is what religion always does. Count yourself as a white washed sepulcher and a snake. God bless you.

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@Gregory TL;DR. all i see is damn near a full goddamn meter long post worth of inane, meaningless wordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordsWordsWordsWORDSWORDSWORDS wall o' text snore-fest. you should have stayed gay, it might have kept you from becoming bat-shit crazy and posting these novel-length manifestos about how you've obviously traded one reasonably healthy fixation on penis into a REALLY unhealthy obsession about seeing how many garbled bible quotes you can cram into one comment before people start falling asleep just trying to get to the end of your post to see if it HAS a fucking POINT. 

oh, and see those keys labeled "Tab" and "Enter" on that clicky letter thingy you're banging your dick/face/safety-mittened fingers on to write this hellaciously engrish missive? USE THEM ONCE IN A WHILE. FFS learn what a goddamn PARAGRAPH is, but i GUESS you can be forgiven if you're forced to type as fast as humanly possible for as long as humanly possible about the more boring shit you can think of to prevent you masturbating to the thought of other boys. however the bible is about as entertaining as watching flies fucking for some of us, so next time maybe transcribe from something more fun, like the phone book, or any handy dictionary. 

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