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Mhernandez 05/17/2012 6:20:00 PM
With the morals and ethics in this system that allows Mark Zaher to have an affair with a married woman nothing surprises me.
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Mhernandez 05/17/2012 6:16:00 PM
Vcxg NH CCTV
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Alberto S. 10/14/2010 3:44:00 AM
I also attended Allapattah from 1992-1994, and in fact back then I WAS one of those unruly students who disrupted classrooms, cut classes, and started fights... AND... I was in the magnet program. Now I look back and realize that it wasn't all my fault. I lacked discipline. Discipline that the school administrators had been commissioned to maintain, but either seemed not to care to provide, or couldn't. It was not a safe place to be. Often I was armed to protect myself. In fact I was caught with a weapon in school and almost expelled; ALMOST. It seemed the only way at times to be relatively safe was to join groups of like-minded kids who would look out for each other AKA gangs. There were classes that I wouldn't show up to all week and still somehow I passed. Clearly the teacher had no desire to see me back there the following year. I was robbed on more than one occasion. I remember there were classes where the teacher would not even be there the entire period and the students were left to their own devices. Reading this article put me right back in those hallways, down to the smelly bathrooms. IT WAS NOT A SAFE PLACE TO BE. Not for children, not for teachers. I don't doubt a single word that was written in this article. Its as if it was being written about my own experience at AMS verbatim. Overall, Allapattah IS a failed school, and I hope that some day things can be made better there. Those kids are, after all, the future of that neighborhood. It's a viscous circle that has to be broken, and I applaud Mrs. Selig for trying.
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erikaspastfriend 05/24/2010 5:32:00 PM
erika is an insane bitch. i have known her for 10 yrs. she once told everyone she knew her father died and played it out for months when he was alive and well...all to get attention from a guy. she's sick and needs our help and prayers.
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Allapattah alum 2004 11/09/2009 11:40:00 AM
I stummbled across this article online by accident, and read the entire article, and i must say that it is very true. I attended AMS from 6th-8th grade from 2001-2004 (years might be off). I must say that Allapattah is the worst school in miami dade. The students will defend their schools rep now, but later in life they will be able to evaluate their experience at AMS more clearly.I was a honor roll student and always had advanced classes. I witnessed first hand how horrible of a school Allapattah is. I once got "Jumped" by older teens for a NBA jersey. Had to put up with the horrible school lunches, nasty employees, and overall dreadful facilities. The security guards are garbage, when i went there we had fools (L.T, Coleman, edward)... Young guys(at the time) that dont have any fucking clue what they are doing. Students had no respect for them and would always clown them. I know AMS is in the slums of NW miami, a poor place where i still live in today. I attend FIU now, and graduated from Willaim H. Turner tech in 2008. Im not saying that the school is bad academically, but i am supporting the fact that security sucks, it sucked when i went there, and apparently it is still an issue.. When i went there, Grice was principal and Hamilton was assistant principal. I had many good teachers including katy adams, ms.williams(english) and Javier peraza. Somthing has to improve, Plain and simple.
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Ana 09/23/2009 4:21:00 AM
Wow. just wow. I'm incredibly shocked, not by what Ms.selig said but because she has the guts to actually report it. I mean she was actually my teacher. I by the way am ''amy'' as the story says; my real name is actually ana. Anyways I can see where shes coming from since i came from a blue ribbon school in yonkers new york]PEARLS HAWTHORNE ELEMENTARY] and i ended up going to allapattah. sure i was intimidaded by the surrondings of the school but i made the best of it. This was all in my 6th grade year there and now im a proud 8th grader. I also want to mention that Ms.selig made us write a completely out of line note to our staff allowing us to curse at them and everything. Of course we got a grade for it and all and if you dont believe me ask Ms.selig herself ask the reporter [who i actually met] because i was in that class. Anyways i just want to say how i'm unbiased by this story because yes the conduct could be better, but no were not a fucking crazy school that ''threatens'' our staff. End of story.
Sincerely,
Ana C. :]]
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Ana 09/23/2009 4:21:00 AM
Wow. just wow. I'm incredibly shocked, not by what Ms.selig said but because she has the guts to actually report it. I mean she was actually my teacher. I by the way am ''amy'' as the story says; my real name is actually ana. Anyways I can see where shes coming from since i came from a blue ribbon school in yonkers new york]PEARLS HAWTHORNE ELEMENTARY] and i ended up going to allapattah. sure i was intimidaded by the surrondings of the school but i made the best of it. This was all in my 6th grade year there and now im a proud 8th grader. I also want to mention that Ms.selig made us write a completely out of line note to our staff allowing us to curse at them and everything. Of course we got a grade for it and all and if you dont believe me ask Ms.selig herself ask the reporter [who i actually met] because i was in that class. Anyways i just want to say how i'm unbiased by this story because yes the conduct could be better, but no were not a fucking crazy school that ''threatens'' our staff. End of story.
Sincerely,
Ana C. :]]
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Ana 09/23/2009 4:21:00 AM
Wow. just wow. I'm incredibly shocked, not by what Ms.selig said but because she has the guts to actually report it. I mean she was actually my teacher. I by the way am ''amy'' as the story says; my real name is actually ana. Anyways I can see where shes coming from since i came from a blue ribbon school in yonkers new york]PEARLS HAWTHORNE ELEMENTARY] and i ended up going to allapattah. sure i was intimidaded by the surrondings of the school but i made the best of it. This was all in my 6th grade year there and now im a proud 8th grader. I also want to mention that Ms.selig made us write a completely out of line note to our staff allowing us to curse at them and everything. Of course we got a grade for it and all and if you dont believe me ask Ms.selig herself ask the reporter [who i actually met] because i was in that class. Anyways i just want to say how i'm unbiased by this story because yes the conduct could be better, but no were not a fucking crazy school that ''threatens'' our staff. End of story.
Sincerely,
Ana C. :]]
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Rachel 01/23/2009 8:13:00 AM
I am in my 4th year at a previous zone school, not too far from Alapattah. All I can say is that everything this teacher described, is NOT AN EXAGERRATION. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. Kids fighting in the halls, being very rude and disrespectful, and administration doing little to nothing to prevent it. If a student curses me out, they are sent to csi for one day or get off with a warning and are back the next day, even angrier then the day before. I can't wait to see the day that I transfer to another school. I can also deal with the misbehaviors of the children because at the end of the day, they are kids in need of love, attention, and guidance. But I cannot forgive a district so caught up in keeping up appearances and sweeping things under the rug that that they turn a blind eye to the number one thing that can fascilitate a nurturing learning environment; discipline and responsibility for one's actions.
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Rachel 01/23/2009 8:12:00 AM
I am in my 4th year at a previous zone school, not too far from Alapattah. All I can say is that everything this teacher described, is NOT AN EXAGERRATION. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. Kids fighting in the halls, being very rude and disrespectful, and administration doing little to nothing to prevent it. If a student curses me out, they are sent to csi for one day or get off with a warning and are back the next day, even angrier then the day before. I can't wait to see the day that I transfer to another school. I can also deal with the misbehaviors of the children because at the end of the day, they are kids in need of love, attention, and guidance. But I cannot forgive a district so caught up in keeping up appearances and sweeping things under the rug that that they turn a blind eye to the number one thing that can fascilitate a nurturing learning environment; discipline and responsibility for one's actions.
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Rachel 01/23/2009 8:12:00 AM
I am in my 4th year at a previous zone school, not too far from Alapattah. All I can say is that everything this teacher described, is NOT AN EXAGERRATION. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. Kids fighting in the halls, being very rude and disrespectful, and administration doing little to nothing to prevent it. If a student curses me out, they are sent to csi for one day or get off with a warning and are back the next day, even angrier then the day before. I can't wait to see the day that I transfer to another school. I can also deal with the misbehaviors of the children because at the end of the day, they are kids in need of love, attention, and guidance. But I cannot forgive a district so caught up in keeping up appearances and sweeping things under the rug that that they turn a blind eye to the number one thing that can fascilitate a nurturing learning environment; discipline and responsibility for one's actions.
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gary 09/01/2008 2:57:00 AM
There are certain politicians who believe it is wrong to discipline students. Some day Americans will realize that on this subject, the old school was not too bad. You have to be held accountable as an adult, why do some people think you cannot hold kids accountable.
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gary 06/27/2008 5:53:00 PM
You will not succeed when the inmates run the place. A school used to be a place or organization and discipline. http://www.phoenix-life-insurance.com
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Benjemmin 06/07/2008 6:41:00 PM
It is said that many schools have discrimination and prejudice to bisexual or gay students. I heard many about this. I also
heard that everyone is bi to some degree.Not sure about this. But I also heard about the same from the site biloves.com,
which is exclusively for bisexuals and bicurious. Maybe it depends on how to define it.
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cari 06/02/2008 7:35:00 AM
I feel for Ms Selig. I was employed at Downtown Miami Charter School and they have the same problem with disciplining children. Teachers have tolerate rude and bad behavior. Not only does the administration not support their teachers but they side with the parents even if the parent are wrong. How can you do your job effectively if you have no type of support. This is what wrong with the school system. Slack administrators and bad parents.
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Ashamed 05/28/2008 12:46:00 AM
It is a shame that the Miami New Times did not censor some of the vulgar comments attempted by children. There is something wrong at Allapatah Middle but there is also something wrong with the exposure of children who have obviously been prompted by an adult to reply to Ms. Selig's allegations. No one is a winner here and the District needs to address the vulgarity in the post by school children, obvioulsy on classroom time.
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appalled 05/27/2008 1:35:00 AM
The story was sad enough, but the comments by the students are heartbreaking. "Honor roll" students with such appalling grammar and spelling? Forget the violence and vulgar language, that is what saddens me the most. Thanking a teacher for his grammar lessons when the results are so nearly unreadable? (If I were Mr. Noble, I would be banging my head against a wall in chagrin.) Where are these children's parents? Have they ever had proper English modeled for them at any time? Have they ever had any proper grammar in any language modeled for them?
I thought our public schools in Texas were bad, but this is horrible. I used to work with special-needs high school students, and most of them could write more clearly and compellingly than the students who have commented here. With much cleaner language, I might add. Again, this is appalling.
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R.S 05/25/2008 11:12:00 PM
really all of that is a lie because i am a curent student at allapattah and if that did really happen we would have been heard people talking about it in the scholl ms.seling just mad because none of her students liked her...and shes trying to get back at us by trying to make our school look bad so she need to stop..!
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Richard 05/23/2008 2:57:00 AM
This is a really great story. These types of stories really let me know that some people out there REALLY CARE. And the others, that have the ability to make REAL change, just stand on the sidelines.
I attended Allapattah Middle School during 1992-1994(7th and 8th grade), and from the sound of it, things there have not changed much.
While I attended AMS, I witnessed illegal "candy houses" that sold candies to the teens. In some cases you could even buy drugs. I witnessed severe disruptive behavior, suspicious school guards, and very very low morale and school spirit. The school is feet from crack holes, and it goes on.
School Principles need to step in and make change! The youth in that neighborhood is faced with some serious challenges.
And the most scary part, is the number of students that want to learn, want to do well. The problem? The environment, and peers do not allow them too. Teachers are fed up, and do not go the extra mile for the "good" students. I lived this article. Just over 10 years ago.
There was a Marine Skills Magnet Program(not sure if its still there) that was headed by Mr. Shelby.(Science Teacher.), and that was about the only good thing going for that school.
I was a gifted student with high grades. Needless to say, the school got the best of me (at the time). My grades fell, and I did bad at that school. My parents who are immigrants, didn't know any better. Right after Allapattah I attended Jackson Senior High. An F rated school.
Regardless, i think this story shows us the tip of the iceberg with the failed school system in Miami. Specifically the Allapattah neighborhood.
Thank you for reading.
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fbk 05/21/2008 8:56:00 AM
They should put cameras in all the rooms.
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Mary 05/20/2008 11:01:00 PM
What a sad reflection of some the students, teachers and the general state of public education in Dade County.
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Francisco Alvarado 05/20/2008 10:18:00 PM
Sum 1:
I told you and the other anonymous posters to stop with the physical threats. You are entitled to your opinion, but I am not going to tolerate wannabe thugs talking smack. Just because you use a fake name and a fake email address doesn't mean that we can't track you down. I suggest you be more careful with your comments. If you have a particular beef with this article then you need to address it with me. And that goes for anyone who reads this story. I can be reached at francisco.alvarado@miaminewtimes.com.
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Sum 1 05/20/2008 2:20:00 AM
LOOK HEAR U UGLY AS BITCH LET ME TEL YO PUSS ASS SUMTHING.WAT DA FUCK IS YO GAODDAMN PROBLEM TALKIN BOUT OUR FUCKIN SKOOL LIKE DAT.......AND SO DAMN WAT IF OUR PRINCAPAL GOT A MUTHFUCKIN POPED BELLY WAT DA FUCK DAT GOT 2 DO WITT YO ASS? U RAGADY ASS BITCH FUCK U AND IF WE C U IN OUR NEIBHORHOOD WE GON BEAT YO MUTHAFUCKIN ASS. U UGLY ASS BITCH AND I WISH YOP ASS WUD CUM ROUND HURR 2 OUR SKOOL ALL 643 STUDENTS WILL WHOOP YO MUTHAFUCKIN ASS......U RAGEDY ASS BITCH...AND HAVE A MUTHAFUCKIN NICE ASS DAY
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Shawn Beightol 05/17/2008 3:01:00 AM
Students:
You may disagree with Ms. Selig's version of the incidents that happened, but no one will take you seriously or believe you if you act here (with the threats and meanness, the foul language, the obvious misspellings and grammatical mistakes) as the story suggests you act at school.
Much of the behavior and words here merely corroborate the main assertions of the article.
Something is wrong. With our schools, our communities, and even our families that allow children to grow up talking and acting like uneducated, angry thugs; that allow children to pass through some of the most endowed educational institutions in the world without learning to read beyond a 7th grade level; that produce young members of the next round of entrants to society that utterly disdain the pursuit of knowledge and skills needed to solve problems, communicate ideas, and create materially that which is able to be envisioned by the human mind.
It's not your fault. It's not Ms. Selig's fault. It's not Mr. Costa's fault or Dr. Crew's fault.
But it is our problem and we must find the solution.
In terms of the schools, we must achieve a school board that develops a unified vision and philosophy of education for Miami that is independent of each successive superintendent or even new board member or staff person. We must, as a community, hold our school board accountable to develop this philosophy and strategy that puts resources and attracts the best, brightest and most enthusiastic educators (administrators, teachers, support personnel) to the LOCAL school site.
We must turn the local school into a treasure valued by both the parents, the children and the employees who work their so that there is a sense of ownership and pride by all the members of the community.
Regards,
Shawn Beightol
beights@yahoo.com
www.shawnbeightol.com
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Josh 05/16/2008 12:39:00 AM
After having read this article, I can confirm and or relate to much of it. I did time at Allapattah myself, serving as a teacher under the Brian Hamilton/Lewis/Sierra regime. While there, teachers (especially new ones), were subjected to indifference at the least and outright neglect at the most.
If we kicked students out for the disrespectful behavior and language such as the kind depicted in many of the illiterate comments that have followed this article, more often than not the student would be returned to the classroom with a pass from an A.P. and no explanation. According to one administrator, even if the kid had no bookbag,and no supplies (read: not there to learn), they were supposed to be in the classroom. We were supposed to allow ourselves to be subjected to that treatment beacuse THEY did not want to deal with it.
More often than not, we were always being told what we were doing WRONG but rarely anything right. Granted, the school was under the gun as state and district officials were there constantly, but why put the teachers under such pressure? Even when these often clueless officials (and I am referring to the district spooks, the state officials actually praised me and gave me helpful hints that I use to this day) made major mistakes, the administration did not stand up for us. I recall when a district specialist told use that it was OK for our kids to use slang when composing their FCAT writing essays. Not only was this directive defeatist and counterproductive, it was flat-out racist. Try telling that to students in Kendall. Any principal worth their weight would have had a fit upon hearing that. However, in cases like this the admininistration did not act like a support staff there to help the troops, but rather as the warden overseeing a prison.
Allapattah wasn't all bad. There was an administrator (Dr. Cook) who tried to bring order and discipline to the school. There were kids there to learn. And there were many teachers who did their jobs, and whom I learned so much from. They have one of the toughest jobs in the world. However, it's an uphill battle considering the statements made by current Allapattah students writing racist vitriol while they should be in class.
Luckily I was able to transfer out. However, even though there were days when I was convinced that many of the children I taught (or babysat, as the conditions were horrendous) were the spawn of Lucifer, I look back and I am actually grateful for my time there. One, if you can run a class at Allapattah, you can run a classroom anywhere, and two, no matter how much my fellow teachers at my current school complain about trifling matters, the grass definitely isn't greener on the other side.
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Francisco Alvarado 05/13/2008 4:01:00 AM
Dear readers:
The person who posted comment number 104 is not Erika Selig. While I support your feedback to my story, even the vicious, vile, vulgar comments many of you anonymous posters have written, please refrain from using this forum to slander or threaten bodily harm on Ms. Selig or anyone else who disagrees with your point of view.
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Steve 05/13/2008 2:38:00 AM
Pathetic.
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Erika 05/13/2008 2:15:00 AM
To "inspiring educator" #89 -
Do you see the contradictions in your comments? First, you rip on me as if I'm some horribly immature person who brought this situation on myself - and I have no idea what you're talking about me not showing up to work when I had set up a meeting with a parent?? Ummm, that must have been another white teacher who was abused and threatened, not me.
I called the police, and had no inclination to ever meet with a parent who is probably as violent and unstable as her child. THEN, after ripping me apart you compliment me and say, I probably COULD have made it at Allapattah. Thank you for your confidence. However, I'm not sure how I could have made it with all the supposed short-comings you conjured up in your pathetic comment.
You say the story is one-sided and not well-researched, but then you compliment Mr. Alvarado for inspiring students to write and respond. Again, thank you for giving me the credit I deserve (even though you misplaced it) because without me there would have been no article. MR. ALVARADO ASKED A MULTITUDE OF TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATORS (INCLUDING MR. COSTA) TO COMMENT AND THEY ALL REFUSED, LIKE THE COWARDS THEY ARE.
Maybe you need to go back to college and take English 101 and learn how to build a valid argument. Then again, you're just a baby-sitter, not a real teacher, so what can you expect?
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Steve 05/13/2008 1:00:00 AM
What a joke.
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Dan 05/13/2008 12:59:00 AM
Just awful. Inmates running the asylum...
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Erika 05/13/2008 12:31:00 AM
I'm not sure what your point in lying about me was, but clearly you are hurt and upset. Why? The truth hurts, yes it does.
And as far as what I did or did not accomplish in that classroom in terms of REAL teaching and learning - how dare you judge me when you don't even know me or anything that went on in that classroom. NO ONE ever stepped foot in my classroom, EVER to evaluate me or otherwise. I was the FIRST teacher to even influence those students to WORK to earn a grade and LEARN.
Thank you to all the ignorant teachers and students at Allapattah who posted on here, only proving my point (and verifying this article to be truthful) that you exist in a world of denial, full of racist, violent, ignorant people.
To the intelligent teachers who posted and KNOW where I was coming from (and are actually able to READ and not just make assumptions because they are offended that the TRUTH was finally revealed!), may you find a better place as I did, where students and teachers are civilized and teachers are ALLOWED to teach (not just force-feed students with FCAT jargon and utter NONSENSE.)
Not all schools are like Allapattah. In fact, many are not. There are better places out there for all you REAL teachers. You non-teacher losers, who bring our profession down because you don't teach - you allow students to misbehave and get on the internet - well, karma is a bitch.
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Erika 05/13/2008 12:13:00 AM
And to #89 - I see you are as much of a coward as the rest of your racist, in-denial colleagues (not ALL the teachers/administrators at Allapattah but those who are indeed white-woman "cracker" haters) who will be unable to get a REAL teaching job ANYWHERE but the dysfunctional MDCPS or Allapattah, where clearly they only need a warm body to be in the classroom, not a real teacher.
As far as your supposed "first hand" accounts of me being the big (not petite! :) bad, evil white lady to those innocent little children, all I can do is laugh. your idea that you could give me advice on how to "handle" the racist, violent children is not only completely laughable but it only illustrates THE ISSUE at Allapattah and elsewhere. You INCOMPETENT "teachers" who are really just glorified social workers actually THINK teachers should take being called racist names and threatened!! You think it's just all in the art of teaching, as if teachers can control 10-15 years of habitual poor (downright CRIMINAL) student behavior.
The DAY I arrived in that classroom (because the previous teacher ran FAR, FAR away) I was abused and threatened. Oh I'm sorry, was it my priveledge to be at Allapattah? Was I supposed to learn "how you do" in the hood there? Yes, I guess it was my affluent, white upbringing that was offensive to all those in the hood, many who had never even seen a white woman before.
Clearly, you are envious of the fact that I got out of that hellhole, and you're stuck there. As far as your comment that "I could have made it at Allapattah" - are you kidding me? Are you that much of a MORON?? Do you see the point in my contributing to this article was to EXPOSE the horrible abusive environment at Allapattah. I certainly was not hoping to "make it" at Allapattah after the first week of abuse! As if Allapattah is the end-all-be-all? Are you smoking crack with those kids in the bathroom??
Wasn't Allapattah on lock down a few weeks ago because some neighbors had a shoot-out with automatic weapons? Hmmmm, no I must have made it all up. Allapattah is heaven and I'm the devil...yes, that must be it!?
You poor, unfortunate woman. I'm sure you don't know any better since your a prime example of the ignorance that pours out of MDCPS.
Next time, have the courage to sign your name to your comment - or e-mail me personally. Oh but you wanted your 15 minutes of fame, so there you go.
Hope you're enjoying the lovely dining facilities with prison-like bars covering the windows at Allapattah! I'm so glad you can enjoy yourself again now that I'm gone. I know I was such a trouble-maker, such a crazy white lady! How dare I want what everyone wants - to be treated as a person, not as a "cracker"....
Do you get it now?? I highly doubt it.
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Erika 05/12/2008 11:57:00 PM
I did not write #104 comment, because I am not a racist. And as my comment above indicates, I'm much more literate and intelligent. It is interesting that I saw more black-on-black and more Latino-black racism (calling each other niggers, and calling anyone who "wasn't black enough" a cracker) at Allapattah than anywhere else in my travels (which includes Compton, a predominately black community.)
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Ms. Selig 05/11/2008 3:08:00 AM
I am officially retracting this entire story. In fact I return to Allapatah Middle often when I need to score some crack, get me a ho, or simply get robbed and shot. I can honestly say that in the time at this school I learned some valuable things, such as how to fry a chicken with its head still on, how to color my hair with grape Kool-Aid, and making watermelon smoothies on those hot Florida summer days. In summary, I look forward to seeing all my former students on TV some day getting cuffed by the cops after trying to take down a convenience store.
P.S. One more thing.... fuck off niggas!
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AP Teacher 05/10/2008 6:38:00 AM
As a teacher at Allapattah I must say I am not surprised by the denial of some of the teachers and the students. We do not work at a good school and all of you know it. I expected the students to respond like this, we hear language like this on a daily basis. But for the teachers to defend our school, this is a joke. I don't know if you guys come to work blind folded or if you're just plain old blind. She's right, many of us don't say anything because we know that they (administration) will make our days a living hell. If you take a poll of how many teachers would like to leave Allapattah, it would be the majority of the teachers. I came with the intent of wanting to help our inner city kids, but now they make me want to throw my hands up and give up and I'm a black teacher. Some days are not so bad, but the majority are. Pay attention to the amount of kids that come to school with no intention of doing any school work (you have to bring pencil and paper to do that, THEY DON'T) I will add that all the students are not bad, but if you can read, Ms. Selig never said that. Everyone's just mad because our little dirty secret is out.
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Kimberly 05/09/2008 7:49:00 AM
I am here once again, I wrote comment 76. No, I am not threw with Ms.Selig. You are an old mean lady and has no heart for no one I hope you fell good about yourself I bet you wouldn�t even guess all the problems you put the school and the student threw I personally thought she was a good person but as they say don�t judge a book by its cover. When I first seen Ms.Selig I thought, she was a nice kind of person but when you actually see the real side of a person you outta think it is a dream but as they, say �We learn from our mistakes. I am a victim of this saying when my friends told me about the article I had to see it before I could believe it. When I seen I could not believe what I read no I am not as some of the other student write just to sell out. I write to explain how I fell and my real thoughts about this article I am like all the other students and thought she was really wrong but you know as they say we need to push every thing in the pass away and get to the future. That is what I am doing with this comment expressing all of it out. I just hope she doesn�t do it with her new school.
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Arthur Blair 05/09/2008 6:19:00 AM
Signs of the times. This is what happens when the students are allowed to run an academic facility. I have lived and worked in the Allahpattah area and I have seen too many horrid incidents occur. The school reflects the neighborhood and the people who live in it. If the parents/guardians of these "deadly darlings" were to assume their duty of being supportive of the school and controlling their children there would be less outrageous behavior. It was the actions and behavior of our Generation X'ers that changed my mind about becoming a part of the world of teaching and academics. The teaching profession has become deadly and not enought is being done to truly manage the situation by our Government officials. I guess it is going to take a few more violent occurences, maybe even a few murders, before something is done.
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S.O.S 05/08/2008 5:49:00 AM
Hey at least allapattah is trying to help haiti.
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michelle 05/07/2008 8:28:00 PM
fuck you bitch!
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Young, Black, and Educated 05/07/2008 8:11:00 AM
Students, Students............enough is enough!! Your comments are only proving to anyone that reads this article that what Ms. Selig is quoted as saying is TRUE. Stop responding, especially with ignorance.
PARENTS, PARENTS...........please get up off of your butts and go to the school/schoolboard and demand that your children receive better than what they are getting NOW at Allapattah! This is so sad, the students are the ones losing out in this place. Ms. Selig is correct. This article is not about her, it is about what the GOOD students are having to deal with for an entire school year. It is about what the few GOOD, PRODUCTIVE teachers are being subjected to on a daily basis. And if you are a one of the few teachers that are left in this school, you should not feel offended or be defensive about anything that is written in the article. The neighborhood is not the ghetto but most of the students act as if they are. You can believe this is true just by their responses because children that are being raised properly would know better than to use such horrible language towards any adult, regardless of who they are.
TEACHERS, TEACHERS...........let's be REAL here. If you have ever taught in an urban school, you know that the number one thing that is most needed in that school is discipline and structure. It should start with Administration but they cannot do it alone. It has to be the daily effort of every employee in the building. Adiministration must first lay the foundation and demand that everyone else follows through. It must be the culture of the school from the beginning of the year until the end. As Ms. Selig stated, why are students responding to the article during school hours? Has Administration addressed this? And if this is going on during school hours, who is being educated and who is doing the educating? LOOK CLOSE INTO YOUR MIRRORS, please. Would you allow your child to attend this school or better yet would you allow your child to be in YOUR class as a student?
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Insipiring Educator 05/07/2008 6:03:00 AM
P.S.
Mr. Francisco Alvarado,
I'd like to thank you for writing this article so lopsided that the students of Allapattah have had a new found inspiration to read and write! Much appreciated. If Selig couldn't do it in her class you have managed to do it online ! ! !
You should consider teaching!
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Inspiring Educator 05/07/2008 5:48:00 AM
DEAR TRUTH HURTS, (response to post #15)
Unfortunately for you, you are a product of ignorance as Diana S is an 8th grade student at Allapattah Middle School who HAS BEEN accepted to MAST, South Miami, Coral Reef and DASH. Hard to believe for a stupid inner city kid huh.
Unfortunately for you you are stereotyping a child's abilities based on socioeconomics. What does the area a child live in have to do with her ability to read and write well? I hope that you are NOT a teacher, nor a human being who has the ability to affect anyone's life other than your own.
Unfortunately for you, you have gotten caught up Ms. Selig's PROPAGANDA.
Allapattah does produce quality students. Yes we have our shortcomings as do most urban schools, but if you scream about the problem and do nothing to fix it or insite your students to rebel in YOUR class, but come to mine and have no problem you must start to look in the mirror. Adults need to act like adults and when you stoop to the level of an 11 year old girl and call her a "BITCH" then fail to show up at work after requesting that her parent come to school for a meeting I question your mental age and maturity. I question your ability to cope with not so ideal circumstances. Yes, Ms Selig taught in Compton - big freakin' deal - she couldn't at Allapattah. She spent most of her day yelling like a lunatic which could be heard in the hallways, rather than trying to gain the trust of her new students. So what if she was raised in an affluent area in the Midwest. I was raised and educated in an affluent area in the Northeast and I have no issue relating to or getting the cooperation of my students.
I find this entire article one-sided, offensive and improperly researched.
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alejandra(07,08) 05/07/2008 5:42:00 AM
I go to allapattah and its not a bad school we have lots and lots of fun. Everyone say that a.p. is a bad school but really is NOT.I even have lots of fun and i am a very good student at A.P.If you go to allapattah middle for at least one or two days you will say that a.p. is the samething like school my school and that is TRUE.Just because a.p. is in the news almost everyday does not mean that a.p. is a bad school.And all the student is trying to help a.p. to become a C or at least a D school.and by the way a.p. is not going to be a ZONE school next year for you info.And if people go to a.p. middle gust what high school they are going to be in Jackson. like i say again a.p. is not a bad school.AND AT LEAST WE ARE TRYING TO HELP NOT LIKE SOME OTHER SCHOOL.....
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Penelope 05/07/2008 2:40:00 AM
I worked as a teacher for MDCPS for 12 years and I find Selig's experience totally believable. I've seen and experienced similar situations. My conclusion was that the system does not care about the students, only about keeping the machine going. MDCPS is one big horse and pony show. I didn't realize how miserable I was and how abused we teachers were until I left. The ones who are most negatively affected by this are the students.
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sisi 05/06/2008 11:58:00 PM
look you can not saything becuse we are not only school that acts like this and also it was becuse you got on are on never and you only give us work and you never teach it to us.also you never been to a school like A.P. so befoure you say something you better know what you say. and we are A.P. 4 life
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Need I say more? 05/06/2008 10:23:00 PM
Need I say more? From the comments from the children at this school it is evident education is not a priority. Ms. Selig, you did the right thing. Don't look back just keep on walking away from the nightmare that is Allapattah. Don't feel bad for the children our society will always need ditch diggers.
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Need I say more? 05/06/2008 10:18:00 PM
Need I say more? From the comments from the children at this school it is evident education is not a priority. Ms. Selig, you did the right thing. Don't look back just keep on walking away from the nightmare that is Allapattah. Don't feel bad for the children our will always need ditch diggers.
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Booker T 05/06/2008 12:34:00 PM
Ms. Selig story describes well the problems that have always plagued the same schools for decades. However, under Mr. Crew's administration these issues are growing bigger and expanding to other schools. As a former student from one of these F schools, and as a witness to the next generation of students in my family attending these schools, I have seen all these problems first hand. The school's administration in some of these schools do their best to cover up problems instead of solving them, the region's office does the same thing, as well as the department of school's operations. All I can say is that when Mr. Crew took over as Superintendent of M.D.C.P.S. there were 5 F schools and in the present time there are 29.
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Favorite Teacher 05/06/2008 9:20:00 AM
Ms. Selig, I remember sitting in the Teacher's Lounge every day you rambled on about your horrible experience. I actually stopped eating in there because of you. Why did you stick around??? It is my understanding that there was a time that you walked out on the class. Why did you return? I remember offering you suggestions on what I did as a first year teacher and actually tried to help you when you initially arrived. However, you only went on and on about the school's administration and how they did nothing to assist you with the behavior problems in the classroom. I offered several activities that you could try as a whole group to establish rapport with your class. You refused to try it!!! You stated to me that the problem was not the entire class, there was only a handful of students that were problematic. You also stated that they were aggressive towards each other not towards you! I think you came to Allapattah with a bitter taste from the previous school and Allapattah's students paid for whatever happened at your previous school. You stated in front of me that you walked out at the school where you previously taught because you and the principal did not meet eye to eye. It is a shame that you are portraying Allapattah the way you did. Yes, I say you because you are leading people to believe that you are an innocent victim, when in fact, I witnessed you as you provoked a young lady in the hallway by talking down to her. All students are different and your approach with a student should never be hostile or belittling. As teenagers, they are going to respond with aggression and resistance to you and your requests. I think you had the potential to make it at Allapattah if only you would have arrived to our school with a better attitude. What actions did you take to try to correct the problem before running to the administrators? (I agree, you are not a petite white woman, you are a white woman but not a petite one!!!! You may need glasses Mr. Reporter)
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alejandra 05/06/2008 5:45:00 AM
ya dont know who are ya talking about because all the schools have fights. By the way a.p. is not the only bad schools in miami dade. If you go to a.p. that ROCK but if you dont that your back luck cuz a.p. is a good school who care what people say and thinks about a.p. if you want to a.p. THEN go to a.p. FUCK YOU IF YOU SAY THAT A.P. IS A BAD SCHOOL CUZ ITS NOT!!! BY A STUDENT FROM A.P.
:+:A.P. 4 life:+:
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MR. WEST 05/05/2008 7:22:00 PM
SORRY FOR THE INCOVIENCE
WERE NOT A VERY BAD SCHOOL
IT'S BECAUSE OF OUR LOUSY PRINCIPAL
WHEN HAMILTON WAS HERE WE WERE A "C" SCHOOL
BUT NOW WE HAVE NO FREEDOM STUDENTS JUST GO CRAZY TO HAVE FUN
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mimi 05/05/2008 7:16:00 PM
YOU KNOW I FEEL THAT THE STUDENTS THEY DON'T STOP AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE SAYING OR WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THE SAD PART IS THAT THE LITTLE GROUP THAT GRADUATES GOES ON TO JACKSON SENIOR HIGH WITH THE SAME DICIPLINE THAT THEY HAD IN MIDDLE SCHOOL. THATS THE SAD PART,THEN THEY END UP DROPPING OUT AND NEXT THING YOU NOW THEIR IN JAIL, WHERE THEY SHOULD'VE BEEN IN THE FIRST PLACE. IF THERE IS NO DICIPLINE AND NO RESPECT FOR ONE ANOTHER THE ATTITUDE BASICALLY IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. I JUST FEEL REALLY BAD FOR THE TEACHERS THAT WAKE UP EVERY MORNING TO TRY TO HELP THESE STUDENTS BECOME SOMEONE IN THE FUTURE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY WON'T KNOW ANY BETTER UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE.
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Distressed Mother 05/04/2008 8:26:00 PM
Unfortunately this is what our children are facing in today's schools - if the kids are not able to be put in Magnet programs or Charter Schools then they are left to fend for themselves.
Where are is our money going? Politics!! Miami Politics!! It is not what you know but who you know!!!
We need to have the parents take over the system and we need to elect the people who are in charge.
Thank you Ms. Selig - you are the type of Teacher that we wish all of our kids could have. It is time for a change and it is evident!
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karla 05/04/2008 10:44:00 AM
Ms.Sileg is NOT telling the TRUTH. She's only telling her PART. but alot of students at Allapattah can tell the reason why they acted that way with her,but it wasn't as she saying.1st she used to threatened the students that she would failed them just for talking and she curse them out.Which students NEVER spoke about. Students did NOT act the way she is saying they just were defending themselves.ANd about that ''meet my little frien'' she misunderstood. We students at Allapattah Middle have our own stories to tell.And the faculties and staff take good care of us and care about our education. Mr.Costa is a GOOD principal he tries his best to help us alot to be someone in life and achieve our GOALS.
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anonymous educator 05/04/2008 9:12:00 AM
I am a fellow educator and I believe Ms. Selig's story. Although my school has problems just like anywhere else, I am fortunate to have a much more supportive administration. However, I am not blind to the overall problem that is going on in Miami-Dade County Schools. We're so focused on the FCAT and trying to create "little test takers" that we're failing our kids by placing 40+ kids to a teacher, not enough supplies, unhygenic enviornments...you name it. Worse of all, we're letting these kids run the schools!
Something needs to be done and Mr. Administrator of the Year is not doing it. Where is the union in all of this? The death threats (left by students in this comments section) should be a clear indication that 1. Someone needs to teach needs kids grammar and 2. their violence disrespect is evident.
Ms. Selig, I salute your courage!
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Erika 05/04/2008 12:31:00 AM
I wasn't sure if I would respond with a post or not, as most of these negative, moronic responses deserve no validation. To the angry, violent, clearly psychologically disturbed children who posted (one of whom revealed a child's name that Mr. Alvarado had changed in his article to protect the children's identities): Do you know what a newspaper is? Do you know what a reporter is? Can you differentiate between the person who WROTE the article and the person who is quoted in the article? It also seems your English teachers need to do more to educate you on "author's purpose" and not just TELL you if you're a level 1, 2, or 3, severely below grade-level "reader" (and I use that term "reader" loosely).
Also, Frank Alvarado asked MANY teachers and administrators at Allapattah and MDCPS comment in this article, and ALL refused. What does that tell you? If they had any real defense or interest in defending Allapattah, they were given a chance. they were given MULTIPLE chances. THEY chose to make this article one-sided by refusing to get involved, and hiding in their ivory towers because administrators in MDCPS and at Allapattah DO NOT CARE ABOUT CHILDREN IN THE GHETTO. They care about money and power.
To the phony "teachers" - administrators - who posted such outrageously ignorant comments, I hope that makes you feel better. "Most white teachers" are "happy" at Allapattah? Well, considering there are about 5 white-Anglo teachers at Allapattah and no white-Anglo students, it's sad that you say "most (not all) white" teachers are happy. Clearly, you are not white, and you are a coward who can't reveal your name. And, you don't know anything about me, and how I have RESPECTFULLY and POSITIVELY served 1000s of student in my 10 year teaching history. How dare you, or any of you disgusting people make your shallow inaccurate assessments of me or what happened to me at Allapattah, when YOU are part of the problem, not the solution.
However, I do realize that if you grew up in the ghetto of Allapattah (or somewhere similar) you probably just don't know any better. Ignorance breeds ignorance, so I've learned with my short stint at Allapattah. (Silly me for wanting to fight the ignorance that runs through the veins of many involved at MDCPS and Allapatah.)
As only normal, non-barbaric, intelligent human beings would be able to INFER, this article was not about EVERY STUDENT at Allapattah. It was about my horrific experience, and the FACT that MDCPS, Mr. Costa and his incompetent administration could care less about their teachers and their students. The chaos at Allapattah that they perpetuate with their "let's look at the positive and ignore the problems" (denial) attitude IS the problem. This article was an EXAMPLE of the corruption that exists at Allapattah and in MDCPS, the utter incompetence and laziness of the "powers-that-be" in MDCPS and the fact that the CHILDREN are not being educated or held to ANY real behavioral OR academic standards that would make them competitive in the REAL world, beyond the ghetto.
How many teachers have come and gone from Allapattah through the years, versus how many teachers who have stayed? And how many teachers who stay there are truly happy and competent, or simply trapped and stuck because they have no self-motivation to do better, and go somewhere better? Now, I fully realize SOME of the teachers there are TRUE heroes, because they sacrifice their own safety (and sanity) to try to help children learn and become better citizens. And someone (maybe) I hope is even trying to teach you PROPER English instead of your trashy, ghetto broken - I can't even call it English - as your e-mail posts indicate.
Yes, as Anel stated (and as I stated in the article if ANY of you can READ the final quote) there are MANY wonderful, hard-working, respectful students and teachers at Allapattah. However, Ms. Anel, I am hardly looking for a "perfect" environment. I know quite a bit about pain and anguish, about heartache, about FAR less than "perfect" situations. What you don't understand because you've hardly stepped out of your ghetto world, Ms. Anel, is that there are people like me who purposely come to the ghetto to help children like you, when we could have stayed in our safe, happy, sane more affluent neighborhoods. But I don't expect a child to understand that big picture concept, of course. I just want you to know that I could have left (as most people would have) the DAY that crazy girl threatened me (3 DAYS AFTER I STARTED IN THAT CLASSROOM) but I didn't.
I had intended to stay to help my students succeed, as many were doing, against insurmountable odds. Instead, Costa decided to put a first year, uncertified, untrained teacher in that classroom as my replacement. Instead, it was a blessing in disguise, because I am in a much safer, better environment teaching children who go to Ivy League schools. It's no utopia, because ALL schools have issues, however, I am safe and very much appreciated. And I am REALLY TEACHING instead of acting like a behavior monitor/social worker.
And let me ask you this: what is wrong with wanting the BEST? What is wrong with wanting to go somewhere better? I guess it's hard to teach that concept to children of generational illiteracy growing up in an environment where hardly any one WANTS to do better.
Forgive me, please, for wanting to help. Forgiving me, please, for holding a mirror up to everyone's eyes at Allapattah and MDCPS, FORCING them to take a look in the mirror and asking everyone there: are you part of the problem or part of the solution?
And for the person (#2) who is worried about my administrators at my current WONDERFUL private school finding out about this incident or my credentials (which weren't purchased through an online degree program as MANY people in MDCPS have done): don't worry about it! Obviously, I'm not, or I never would have contributed to this article. I'm in a much better place, where my honesty and candor is much appreciated and actually respected. And if that changes, oh well, I'll keep moving on in pursuit of something better. I am able to have that positive you-can't-stop-me attitude because I can stand by my credentials and my reputation, and I don't have to hide in a dysfucntional school where you "can't get fired" after 97 days.
You see, outside of bizarro world MDCPS and Allapattah, there is an entire world of civilized, educated, sane people who have solid reputations and aren't afraid of the truth. In fact, they appreciate the truth, unlike those many cowards in MDCPS who have to run from the classroom to an administrative position because they were failures as teachers.
I understand many teachers and staff in MDCPS don't have the freedom that I have to stand up and fight. Many people are justifiably worried about losing their jobs and not being able to pay their mortgages and feed their children. I understand. However, the frightening fact still remains that until the MAJORITY of teachers in MDCPS stand up and say "we're not going to be abused like this anymore" the corruption will exist.
I don't have a lifetime to wait for that to happen. I have a beautiful, fulfilling life, and I never forget that I come from a better place than Allapattah and corrupt MDCPS system. I have spent 10 years teaching underprivileged children, overprivileged children, and everything in between. Teaching and the field of education has become an abusive profession. Teachers are abused by parents, students, and administrators on a daily basis. But we persevere because we know that in spite of all the ignorance, the racism, the violence, that we DO make a difference, at least for some children. If we only reach 10 out of 100 children, that's ok. The children who WANT to succeed, who want to do better, who WANT to see the truth and get out of the ghetto and rise above the barbaric, violent ghetto mentality will do so no matter what. I just wanted to help those children, and protect them from the violence and chaos that tries to pull them back. And I have SUCCEEDED in helping so many children, protecting them from miserable abusive environments, offering hope for the future. At Allapattah, instead of being able to continue my mission, I was ostracized and crucified by MDCPS powers-that-be because I wouldn't put up and shut up.
I understand that there are feeble-minded, uneducated people who are products of MDCPS themselves who probably can't wrap their minds around what my intentions were in contributing to this article and WANTING to teach at Allapattah.
Hmmmm, I wonder: Why are there so many private schools and charter schools in Miami? Where I come from, hardly anyone "needs" to go to private school.
And guess what, children? There are not fights and violence and such shaos at "all" schools. It breaks my heart that you don't know any better, and no one is educating you to try to teach you HOW to behave in a better manner. The children who posted on here, many of you, are truly lost and without much hope. The only way to exist in that horrendous environment is to live in denial. I understand. And I forgive you for making racist, perverted comments against me and for threatening my life. But it is your fault, and you should be held accountable for your actions and choice of words.
The point of this article wasn't really even about ME. This was about trying to help all of you, and trying to make your school safer and more like a "real" school.
Why don't you teachers who let your students get on the internet during SCHOOL time on SCHOOL computers and make death threats against me EDUCATE your children and actually READ the article? And, read this post from me, and respond INTELLIGENTLY. If you can. I dare you.
Is it EVER ok, under any circumstances, for children to threaten and assault teachers and students? At Allapattah, clearly, and across MDCPS that is the accepted way. I want no part of such a socially dysfunction school district (not to mention the lack of real academic rigor). Good riddance. And good luck to those who remain in MDCPS. May God help you all.
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quiana 05/03/2008 11:17:00 PM
ms.sileg what you did was wrong you are disrespecting allapattah middle you must want no kids to come to this school.your a liar talking about we carry guns and knifes to school.ive been coming to this school for 2 in a half years and learned so much for a six grader you should be ashamed of your self yeah thers fights but that happens in every school.you act like where the only school that does that stuff.you wouldnt like it if we wrote a whole bunch of lies about you and put it on the enternet would you.when you where talking about mr. costa the principal he does a great job just dont be jjelous that you dont have his place.i thought you were good but turns out your a cruel person.
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quiana 05/03/2008 11:17:00 PM
ms.sileg what you did was wrong you are disrespecting allapattah middle you must want no kids to come to this school.your a liar talking about we carry guns and knifes to school.ive been coming to this school for 2 in a half years and learned so much for a six grader you should be ashamed of your self yeah thers fights but that happens in every school.you act like where the only school that does that stuff.you wouldnt like it if we wrote a whole bunch of lies about you and put it on the enternet would you.when you where talking about mr. costa the principal he does a great job just dont be jjelous that you dont have his place.i thought you were good but turns out your a cruel person.
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Iggy Reilly 05/03/2008 10:49:00 PM
I was raised in an English public school. When I was fourteen, I was learning whole passages of Shakespeare, Marlowe, Alighieri, Dickens, and even Wilde. We had to be able to differentiate Haydn and Mozart after hearing only four bars, and we were able to do this. Disrespectful students were spanked in front of the entire school -- often with canes.
This was unpleasant, but I cannot help but feel we were luckier than the illiterate miscreants posting inane defenses of their school on this board. Like their parents and teachers, they have been taught that having "comfort" is more important than having standards. If the two can coexist, fine -- but I do not think that happy idyll has been created at this school, nor at any school in South Florida. If students can disobey (never mind threaten) their teachers and not worry about the consequences, then we may as well cease forcing them to go to school at all: obviously, they have the same wisdom and rights as adults, and should not be impelled to do what anyone says.
Of course, this kind of thinking will ruin both the country and the entire western hemisphere in the by and by. If a child disobeys a reasonable command from a teacher, he or she should be forced to suffer a very unpleasant detention -- one involving several hours of classwork from whichever subject the pupil is worst at. If the student fails to comply, expulsion would be appropriate. If the parents are tending properly to their children's upbringing, this eventuality should seldom arise. If the parents are not, there is nothing the school system can do about it, and by trying to pick up the parents' slack they are wandering dangerously beyond their jurisdiction, into arenas in which they shall find themselves terribly impotent.
Western schools seem to have forgotten their function: education, education, and still more education. If students try to impede this function, they must be disciplined and removed. If a teacher or an administrator cannot discipline and remove his children as needed, then he too must be removed, for he has willingly sacrificed his own authority and made the system's operation contingent upon the whim of the pupil -- the one person least qualified to dictate terms.
Iggy Reilly
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jewelss12619 05/03/2008 9:25:00 PM
I am a studet at A.P I think I speak or all the students that ms. Selig or how ever you spell her name was out of line for what she said. Allapatah is a great school sure it my have its flaws but no school is perfect and for ms. Selig to lie about the school is just wrong sure we fight at our school and there is always somthing new going on with some drama but the teachers really like us and do try there best to help us learn sure we get them mad but they want us to have a future. We have many good things about allapatah we have a chess team,math,club,FBLA,golf and many other clubs. So before you say anyhing about our school take a good look at the things we have to offer
P.S. THANKS to all my teachers here at allapatah for making me an honor roll student and giving me an education!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Happily Gone from Miami 05/03/2008 8:47:00 PM
I taught for four years at Miami Central in the late 1980s and witnessed much of the same problems. Fresh out of college, I earnestly believed that teachers could make a difference, like mine had for me at Palmetto. I thought that the administration would back up a teacher when threatened or when his or her ability to teach was being compromised by student behavior.
Boy was I wrong.
I had students in class with rings of cocaine around their nostrils, bouncing off the walls. Students having sex in any semi-hidden place they could find, drug deals in the hallways, one of the PE teachers was screwing female students, everyone knew about it, nothing was done. The security guards were a joke.
Not only did the administration cover up problems, they also invented classes, and student rosters to inflate the population and thus get more money from the state, they shuffled the disability students around when they needed more funding from the state (disabled students earn the school extra money), we didn't have enough desks or books. Many of the teachers, both black and white were racist beyond belief. It was a zoo.
And while we were using our own funds to supplement supplies, the principal's wife was driving a Rolls Royce.
So sad to see another teacher leaving due to the inept management of the school. Thank goodness she wasn't hurt. One of the teachers I worked with was being assaulted. While she was being beaten, she tried to defend herself. She was fired for it. The mean white teacher raising her hands to the poor black kid. His parents went to the principal, and that is how it ended. She was an excellent teacher, a published author, and she really cared about her students.
Kudos to all the teachers who remain in the system and work very hard everyday in the face of horrible students, horrible administrators and oblivious parents.
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Kimberly Valmyre 05/03/2008 5:30:00 PM
I am a student who is currently attending Allapattah. Most of those sentences and phrases about the school are somewhat true and somewhat wrong. Nevertheless, I do not think Ms.Selig or however, you spell her name had the rights to spread rumors and lies about the school. The only reason she probably wrote those cruel words is that she could not continue to work at the school. To my point of view, Mr. Costa is a very marvelous man and does a very good job with the school and I would not change him for the world. If Ms.Selig thinks she can do a better job, how about she come and tries to be the boss for a week. I would give her one day and I bet she would not make it. Mr. Costa is doing a great job and so are all the other teachers who work at the school and remember I am a student who has been attending allapattah for one year and is going to continue to attend the school that I love and adore........
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i'mateachah2 05/03/2008 10:57:00 AM
There is some truth to her claim. Although I've never attended AMS, I have heard the horror stories during the late 80's. This school has always had a bad reputation because of the locale. Unfortunately, same story different cities (inner). I know that it is usually hard for White teachers to adjust in a culturally diverse inner city school, but you must have the backing of the Administration to help in aiding discipline. Costa apparently did not do much at Edison, he's probaly a Cuban and could care less about his tenure at AMS or maybe AMS is just a pit stop for him while the puppeteers are working him downtown. I think that the school should focus on discipline then the Fundamentals. I hope that Ms. Selig is doing well at her new school.
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selig hater 05/03/2008 6:20:00 AM
any of yall people out there do not believe this lady she is making up so much lies if she was still der and u went der u would see how stupid she would act she will yell for no dangon reason and if yall believe her yall dont know nothing bout Alapattah
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selig hater 05/03/2008 6:20:00 AM
any of yall people out there do not believe this lady she is making up so much lies if she was still der and u went der u would see how stupid she would act she will yell for no dangon reason and if yall believe her yall dont know nothing bout Alapattah
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selig hater 05/03/2008 6:11:00 AM
any of yall people out there do not believe this lady she is making up so much lies if she was still der and u went der u would see how stupid she would act she will yell for no dangon reason and if yall believe her yall dont know nothing bout Alapattah
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Lisa 05/03/2008 4:57:00 AM
Perhaps teachers at Allapattah need to educate these children that "Mz sleig" didn't WRITE the article. It's called a "newspaper" and there are reporters who write for newspapers.
My heart goes out to all the poor, uneducated, violent, angry children who are clearly growing up in a disturbingly violent neighborhood with no discipline and no idea what exists beyond their trashy world.
And clearly, as their horrible grammar shows, those children aren't being taught much, if anything at all.
Ms. Selig was lucky to get a ticket out of that hellhole before one of those children shot her.
I commend you Ms. Selig, for having the courage to speak the truth and stand up for yourself in the face of racist death threats, instead of running out of there as those RACIST children and administration clearly wanted you to do.
And by the way, silly children, not all schools have violence and fighting.
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Suzy 05/03/2008 4:42:00 AM
It is so sad that these children from Allapattah show their ignorance with their illiterate, violent, disgustingly trashy comments. Clearly, they don't realize that they only validate Ms. Selig's experience and story even further. It is sad that the children and people in this very nasty ghetto would rather abuse a good teacher because she is WHITE and deny themselves from being properly educated. These ghetto children and their families want to live in denial and think they live in a "rich" neighborhood!? Sure, and I live on Gumdrop Island where there is no racism, and everyone loves one another. Talk about HATERS? What a bunch of racist, ignorant children.
And why were these postings allowed during school time? Who was watching the children?
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Kendia Ellison 05/03/2008 4:08:00 AM
first of all who are you to tell us what we are and what we are capable of? you dont know what you are talking about lady. and another thing i woyld like to see you come to school every day and put up with what we put up with. and another thing U NEED TO KEEP ALAPATTAH OUT OF YOUR MOUTH IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE HECK U TALKING ABOUT !!!!!
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chamyriam r 05/03/2008 3:32:00 AM
i disagree with most of this subject,i am a 8 grade student of allapattha. there is some true thing such as fights every school has them it a part of nature the stuff this lady said about of school was tottaly unfair i think that the pudlishers should of got an better view of the school from someone who been there loner not just there for 3 mounts allapattha it in woorking process our fcat scors are continually rising. they should have talk to some of our older teacher such as mr harris or mr brabley or even a student.
anyhow thanks ms.sligh for getting our school some attiton:0
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latinos_ppls 05/03/2008 2:57:00 AM
ms.sileg i think that what you did was truly wrong half of the things you said was not true what you did was wrong...
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ace 05/03/2008 2:39:00 AM
why would you tell these lies to these new reporter like that.you think your gonna look good for making up all these lies.is just gonna make you feel bad inside. the first time i met you cussed me out i was just saying good bye to our wonderful teacher Ms.Stering and then you started bithcing at me form that day on i dispised you.I was scared of you i thought if i look at you wrong your gonna smack me across the head and i was gonna hit you back.you should be the mature one in class in fcat you were acting like a baby.if kids as you a question you called them stupid.am guessing your mom didint teach you any manners.and thats messed up about how you lied about our school.and for this kids in the school are gonna hate and for what you did it will be in allapattah history
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ace 05/03/2008 2:39:00 AM
why would you tell these lies to these new reporter like that.you think your gonna look good for making up all these lies.is just gonna make you feel bad inside. the first time i met you cussed me out i was just saying good bye to our wonderful teacher Ms.Stering and then you started bithcing at me form that day on i dispised you.I was scared of you i thought if i look at you wrong your gonna smack me across the head and i was gonna hit you back.you should be the mature one in class in fcat you were acting like a baby.if kids as you a question you called them stupid.am guessing your mom didint teach you any manners.and thats messed up about how you lied about our school.and for this kids in the school are gonna hate and for what you did it will be in allapattah history
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jd 05/03/2008 2:22:00 AM
Ms.selig lied about every thing she said
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womanwithexperience 05/03/2008 2:01:00 AM
This woman is completely out of line! I have been teaching at this school for many years and as the poster above said she DOES NOT speak for all the white teachers at Allapattah I HAVE NEVER been disrespected! my administration has ALWAYS been more than supportive of any an all of my concerns I have nothing but glowing words for MR. Costa , Mrs. Lewis, and Mrs. Sierra they are all top notch administrators! yes it is true our kids do present their fair share of trials and difficulties but what kids in middle school dont? I ask you this it boils down to respect Miss Selig did you give your children any therefore were you yourself worthy of receiving any in return? The same can be said for your job performance and classmanagement style how often were you running off copies to place in peoples mail box and emailing coworkers instead of teaching? OR didnt any one ever tell you when you point a finger at someone you have three more pointing back at you! (try holding the mirror up at your self you nasty woman instead of insulting children!)
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Anel :D 05/03/2008 1:30:00 AM
I am currently a student at Allapattah Middle School. Yes, the conduct is not the best but every school has conduct issues and I'm sure Ms.Selig knows that. In every school there is fighting and there is drama. This article is portraying our school in a negative like. She is just angry she didn't have her way. She should have gave a negative side and a positive side. Here at Allapatah there are great things happening. We had a Hands on Miami Program where students gave not one but two Saturdays up to make our school look beautiful. Kids came and painted murals, planted flowers and trees. Why didn't the reporter write about the beautiful garden that we have or murals. We also have great education and wonderful teachers. There is also a chess club with kids who compete in competitions. There is (FBLA) Future Buisness Leaders of America. There is 5000 Role Models. We Have Sports. I was on a wonderful soccer team. We all got along and had great games. Ms.Selig is searching for a perfect job with no problems and that doesn't exsist. I want to be a teacher when I grow up and I know the problems I'm going to face, but I plan to help my students change their behavior. Kids have problems with their families or where they live and that plays a big part in who they are and how they act. Its a teachers responsibility to set an example not spend the day sending e-mails to complain or walking out of class like Ms.Selig did. I recomend people to watch the movie Freedom Writers it has alot to do with this. About Mr.Costa he is a great principal and he really cares about us. I hope that reporter would have said something about the long list of students on our mastery board who got a 70% or higher on Interm Assessments. Mr.Costa makes sure those students are rewarded with an Icecream Party or a Pizza Party. That motavates students to do great. We are currentlly reading novels in homeroom like Tears of a Tiger, Brothers In Arms, Spirit Bear, Blood & Chocolate, The Diary of Anne Frank ect. Kids here spend time on FCAT Explorer most of the time and I garantee you that our school will come up one letter grade this year because of our hard work. Check out the schools attendence during FCAT only two students missed school out of 4 testing days. We may be playful in the halls but we get to class and we try to learn. Before you judge our school take a quick look at the positive side of it, Ms.Selig. I absolutly love coming to school everyday at Allappatah Middle School and I mean that.
P.S I thank Mr.Noble for my grammer!! :D
Sincerly, Anel, a student at Allappatah :D
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Lil Chris Chris 05/03/2008 12:56:00 AM
Ms.Selig was not the only teacher that has been threatened.There are some good kids and some bad, but you cant let anybody get in your head.If selig didnt like the shcool, why didnt she just leave. Im a 7th grader at this school and most of the kids are not that bad.All Selig wants to do is make the school look bad because of a few threats. She should know that all kids are not bad. Allapattah is just the beggining of what the future has to hold.
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Neko 05/03/2008 12:49:00 AM
Don't just go to Allapattah and just say that its a bad school >.
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Annie 05/03/2008 12:38:00 AM
The students who wrote feedback to this story need to be transferred to Ruth Owens Kruse at once. There, they will learn some discipline and perhaps will have a future. The principal needs to be fired without a recommendation. The Superintendent has greater problems than harassing teachers and failing students. We need to fire him. The School Board Attorney likewise should be fired. I cannot imagine any school system in this country as corrupt as ours. When I first began sharing Miami-Dade County School Board meeting tapes with educators in Canada, they thought I had devised this wonderful standup comic routine. They don't laugh any more.
The teacher's union should be replaced with folks who will fight for education, not knuckle under to edu-terrorists.
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godfrey 05/03/2008 12:34:00 AM
ms selig wat you said about the school was wrong all that stuff you said isn't true you might not know what is going on in the school because yyou never leave your room until 4:40 and to anyone who reads this we are a good school with good extra cricular activities our wrestling team won district and county championships so how dare say we are a bad school and have bad students
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{F.C.B.B} 05/03/2008 12:32:00 AM
I PERSONALLY THINK THAT YOU JUST WENT TOO FAR... MR.COSTA FAT BUT HE AINT PREGNANT HOE WAT U WANA FUK HIM... U MAD CUZ THINGS AINT GO YO WAY N U AINT GET TOO SUCK THE DICK BEFORE YOU LEFT BITCH.... N HOE DNT SURGAR COAT SHIT MARGRETTA AINT SAY SHE GNE SHOOT YOU SHE SAID DAT YOU GOTTA SHOT HER ONE DAT MEAN FITE DUM ASS.. I DONT LIKE WHAT YOU WROTE ABOUT THE SKOOL!!! WE ARE NOT GOOD BUT WE ARE NOT THE WROST SKOOL HOE WORRY BOUT WATS GOING ON AT YOUR HOUSE.... Y WUD YOU PUT MARGRETTA BUSSINIESS OUT LYK DAT HOE DNT YOU THINK THINGS LIKE DAT HURTS HER FEELINGS DUH HOE DATS Y SHE ACT THE WAY SHE ACT CUZ SHE DNT HAVE A MOM TELLIN HER DA RIGHT THINGS TO DO PUSSY ASS HOE NOW PUT THIS IN THE PAPER
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{F.C.B.B} 05/03/2008 12:32:00 AM
I PERSONALLY THINK THAT YOU JUST WENT TOO FAR... MR.COSTA FAT BUT HE AINT PREGNANT HOE WAT U WANA FUK HIM... U MAD CUZ THINGS AINT GO YO WAY N U AINT GET TOO SUCK THE DICK BEFORE YOU LEFT BITCH.... N HOE DNT SURGAR COAT SHIT MARGRETTA AINT SAY SHE GNE SHOOT YOU SHE SAID DAT YOU GOTTA SHOT HER ONE DAT MEAN FITE DUM ASS.. I DONT LIKE WHAT YOU WROTE ABOUT THE SKOOL!!! WE ARE NOT GOOD BUT WE ARE NOT THE WROST SKOOL HOE WORRY BOUT WATS GOING ON AT YOUR HOUSE.... Y WUD YOU PUT MARGRETTA BUSSINIESS OUT LYK DAT HOE DNT YOU THINK THINGS LIKE DAT HURTS HER FEELINGS DUH HOE DATS Y SHE ACT THE WAY SHE ACT CUZ SHE DNT HAVE A MOM TELLIN HER DA RIGHT THINGS TO DO PUSSY ASS HOE NOW PUT THIS IN THE PAPER
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travis 05/03/2008 12:30:00 AM
wat cheack a nigga out i aint even kno dis cracker but she suck me backwards yo she saw thang in her face and she dipped man i dont lyk ppeople lyk dat
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raggle fraggle 05/03/2008 12:26:00 AM
whoever made this article has a whole lot of lies and whoever made this I want to tell them in there face dat da wron
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Mar'sha Roberts 05/03/2008 12:26:00 AM
This is not true. Well i wont lie because i come to this school 5 days a week. Sum of it is true some kids are indeed out of control and its true about the lack of action mr. costa and ms. lewis take when the children here misbehave. But what ms. Selig did not state is the words that she said to these kids. She said to a boy named kevin that he would be on a bus stop selling newspapers. And i just want to say is that these are some very intelligent students out here and she should not have put Michelle's buisness out like that. This article was uncalled for. No one beat anyone up with a broom this article is full of lies. And about this neighborhood this neighborhood is not poor and drug infested and she does not live here so she has no right to talk about this neighborhood. And i am passin all lmy classes and to tell you the truth this school is full of kids who work their butts-off and some very good teachers such ass Ms. King, Ms. Shirley, Mr. Noble and Many more i trusted this lady i thought she was so sweet, but after a while i started to see her true side and nowhere in this article did you see anything about what she did. She cursed at kids, told them that there lives are going to be full of suffering and for her to go this far is unnecessary. You let this whole school DOWN!
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Mar'sha Roberts 05/03/2008 12:26:00 AM
This is not true. Well i wont lie because i come to this school 5 days a week. Sum of it is true some kids are indeed out of control and its true about the lack of action mr. costa and ms. lewis take when the children here misbehave. But what ms. Selig did not state is the words that she said to these kids. She said to a boy named kevin that he would be on a bus stop selling newspapers. And i just want to say is that these are some very intelligent students out here and she should not have put Michelle's buisness out like that. This article was uncalled for. No one beat anyone up with a broom this article is full of lies. And about this neighborhood this neighborhood is not poor and drug infested and she does not live here so she has no right to talk about this neighborhood. And i am passin all lmy classes and to tell you the truth this school is full of kids who work their butts-off and some very good teachers such ass Ms. King, Ms. Shirley, Mr. Noble and Many more i trusted this lady i thought she was so sweet, but after a while i started to see her true side and nowhere in this article did you see anything about what she did. She cursed at kids, told them that there lives are going to be full of suffering and for her to go this far is unnecessary. You let this whole school DOWN!
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1 05/03/2008 12:25:00 AM
fuk azz white bitch suk deez hanglowz yeah i said it bitch
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albert 05/03/2008 12:21:00 AM
the article is somewhat true but some things she didnt have to put there
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albert 05/03/2008 12:21:00 AM
the article is somewhat true but some things she didnt have to put there
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albert 05/03/2008 12:21:00 AM
the article is somewhat true but some things she didnt have to put there
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honor roll student 05/03/2008 12:20:00 AM
im a honor roll student at allapattah middle school you are taking this to far, teachers at this school have went through this for five to ten years and are still working you are just mad because you couldn't have your way you aren't just making our school look bad but your self you sound like a three year old child whing about some words GROW UP!!!!!!!!! we are glad you gone you trippin little baby
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R.A. 05/03/2008 12:18:00 AM
this is an outrage.Ms Selig is giving false information and is changing words around in this article
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travis 05/03/2008 12:17:00 AM
i disagree with the whole article dis female need to get life yo.if dis female felt dat way she should have stp babyin deez kidz yo and she would have had more respect she shud hav been cheacked da student wit da ipod.da writer did not tell da whole truth
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Unbelievable! 05/02/2008 11:25:00 PM
This is just perfect! Some teacher at the school is having his/her students write responses to the article! All those response at around 11:15-11:30/. What wonderful language and grammer she's taught them! If anyone doesn't believe this stuff happens every day, they're dreamin!
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Harry 05/02/2008 10:51:00 PM
I can completely relate to this story. Upon graduating college, I took a job teaching middle school kids art in an inner city Orlando school. Being one of three white people in the entire school, the students didn't respect me at all. Many of these children are animals. They have no caring families, no education, and ostensibly no future. Trying to get a 14 year old to care about color theory while his dad is in jail and mom is pregnant with another sister is impossible. There is no support at home. There are some people cut out to do this, I am not one of them.
The best thing that ever happened to me was getting relieved of that job. Everyday I went to class, I thought I would get fired. My students constantly misbehaved, were rowdy, and my classroom became the spot to have fights. I think the school eventually realized I was a liability and decided to "cut" the art program. Funny enough, the next year, my "cut" position had been restored, with a black man.
Looking back, I had some great, caring students in my classes there. Most were pure nightmares. Some of us are cut out to work with these mostly lost children. I am not. Now I teach my affluent, well behaved students in a much more peaceful environment and am happy.
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Maunel Alvarega 05/02/2008 10:24:00 PM
Ms. Selig You are a dumb bicth I am maunel I am in the 8th Grade and it just that we don't like your fuk ass White shithead
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BOOBIE 05/02/2008 10:11:00 PM
U on this enternet talkinG all this stuff about A.P this n THAT u dont no stuff u sit yo stuck up self in yo classroom n guess wat is goin on..WIT YO STUPID BUTT n u aint even try n teach us u gave us our work n sat down in got on dat enternet.. n u tld us dat we gne be on dat corner or under that bridge.....all dat u talking is a lie they aint course at you stop lieing cause you would have wrote a scam on us just like u did me n two of my friends 4 being late to class in i couldnt come to class 4 almost a week n a half. so dont lie and make ALLAPATTAH seem like a bad school.. yea we have fights just like any other school now u got everybody thinking that thats all we do.. but when u see dawg u gota holla at me n thats real dawg
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Student 05/02/2008 10:01:00 PM
Well every school fights so thats not a suprise. and we do not fight every 5 . ok? well that dosent sound much like the truth. Also yes lots of kids are smart here. We are not dumb ( like diana said) i agree with her. Most kids are smart and there are some good programs and lots of kids go them. So i disagree with you.
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gubery 05/02/2008 9:54:00 PM
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