by law everyone must be armed and allowed to carry concealed this will totally eliminate all crimes no body will rob anybody if they know everybody is packing heat.
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Rush-hour traffic rattles down NE Second Avenue as Eduardo pulls his Dodge Intrepid into a weedy lot next to the railroad tracks. He eyes the commuters speeding past and then pops the trunk.
"There she is," he says, opening a cardboard box.
"Check out this laser sight!" enthuses Eduardo, a short, paunchy Dominican wearing designer red-and-black shades. He starts to hoist out the rifle — tracing a Predator-style red dot around the trunk — but then thinks twice as a minivan whizzes by.
"Better not scare anyone today," he says.
This parking-lot arms deal seems like the kind of Scarface-style swap that lands everyone involved in prison. But the truth is that roadside assault-rifle sales are perfectly legal in Florida. Buy a gun from the shop, and you're subject to a background check; buy it from a dude you met that morning on the Internet, and there's no red tape. Six hundred dollars later, you could walk away from Eduardo's car with an assault rifle.
Eduardo Inirio is just one of the hundreds of South Floridians who use sites such as floridaguntrader.com as a Craigslist for the bandolier set, buying and selling every conceivable armament, from antique Israeli sniper rifles to semiautomatic TEC-9s, from Romanian AK-47s to classic Smith & Wesson handguns.
With some of the most liberal gun laws in the States — plus a batch of new, gun-friendly statutes awaiting Gov. Rick Scott's signature in Tallahassee — experts expect Florida's online gun-running Wild West to grow.
That's great news for enthusiasts such as Eduardo. "You meet all kinds of great people on there," he says.
He's right. Take Mike, a boat salesman in Pompano Beach. (Like many of the sellers we called, he later asked that his real name not be used.)
He has taken to the Web to sell a Lewis Machine & Tool 5.56mm, a jagged-edged assault rifle favored by elite special forces and SWAT teams. With its camo pattern, bipod base, and holographic sights, it would look right at home in a dusty Libyan trench or on a dark Kabul rooftop.
"This thing is superfrickin' badasssss," Mike says. "It literally comes with instructions on how to destroy it if you're captured by the enemy. And you can't remove it from the country without the express consent of the secretary of state."
Mike says he won the gun at a raffle at his local gun shop, so he'll turn a tidy profit if he can find someone to pony up $2,200 to take it off his hands. "I'm a little in over my head with this one, honestly," he says. "Besides, I got AKs at home for when the shit hits the fan."
On Florida Gun Trader, a varied subculture of collectors, hunters, anti-government types, and law enforcement personnel mingle and haggle over prices.
There are guys like Jim, a Gulf Coast resident looking to unload a Yugoslavian AK-47 for $500. He plans to upgrade to a newer AR-15 — not that you should sneeze at the communist-era rifle. "Put this one up against those Romanian AKs and you'll see the difference," he says, sneering out the word Romanian. "The finish isn't perfect, but the Yugos made a great weapon."
Click the next ad and you might find "Tom," a well-to-do property manager who lives in a luxury condo on Biscayne Bay. The walls of his place are lined with wooden wine racks, but only about a third of the slots are full of Merlots and Malbecs; the rest are bulging with ammo clips.
"I feel that if you put your money into a well-made item, it's going to keep its value," he says, pulling out a Stoner SR-25, a sniper rifle used by the U.S. military and Israeli special forces. "Some people put their money into stocks and bonds. I like guns."
There's plenty of history on the site too.
Doug, a husky-voiced collector from South Dade, is looking to sell a Sino-Soviet SKS: a simple-looking, wooden-stock rifle with a heck of a backstory.
The gun's lineage traces all the way to the days before Mao Zedong's split with his Red Army neighbors, when Russian engineers traveled to Beijing to teach gunsmiths how to make a modern-era rifle. "Like everything else, the Chinese ran with it," Doug says. They cranked out thousands that later found their way into the Vietnam War.
"This particular gun was a battlefield pick-up in Vietnam," he says. "You smell the strap, it still smells like sweat. Now, there's no way to say for sure, but that's Vietcong sweat right there."
Not enticing enough for you? "Ladies absolutely love shooting this gun," Doug adds.
Larry McGuire, a fireman and part-time fisherman in Bradenton, placed an ad last week offering to trade charter trips on his boat for "ARs, AKs, or pistols." He hasn't had any bites just yet. "I'm not sure anyone will actually trade a gun for a fishing trip, but hell, it's worth a shot," he says.
by law everyone must be armed and allowed to carry concealed this will totally eliminate all crimes no body will rob anybody if they know everybody is packing heat.
Reporters and journalist, need many thanks for ruining people lives and business with false or add information or sometimes not putting the proper information to manipulate people.
Bunch of shit mongers sideways reporting. You could call a can of wasp killer an "assault rifle". It shoots twenty feet and unleashes more destru tion than mace in the eyes. Get factual on these things. You need to follow laws with selling. Most people on these websites ask for cwp amd proof of identity. If we are recognized by the goveenment as law obiding citizens that can handle a concealed weapon, what difference is it if it is purchased new from a store or another responsible gun owner? Leta get real, why did you make his name "eduardo" and dress him in deaigner clothes? Could you possibly be any more stereotypical? And for the love of god people, it was a .22 he was buying. Not a fully automatic m16. And surely you lnow that the ar does not stand cor assault rifle.... the armed forces wouldnt touch an ar ( which stands fpr armalite, the originator) they use m series weapons. M.... for military. Whi h are capable of full auto. Thanks for the extremely one sided view though. It was entertaining to see how uneducated you truly are.
When marshal law is enacted and people are shipped off to the FEMA camps, the National Guard will roll tanks and armored personnel carriers through town to squelch uprisings. But by all means grab those laser-sighted AR16s and let us know how that works out for ya.
If and when the fluoridated water fog clears from our minds long enough for people to realize how thoroughly and vigorously the TeaBaggers and repubs have analized all the residents of Florida, the carpetbagging unindicted sociopathic governor and his gang of pirates pillaging the state might regret how easy they made it to collect a cache of weapons. When tired, hungry and desperate enough, the sheeple might start seeking those "2nd Amendment remedies."
Does no one employ fact checkers any more??!?!?!! It is a shame what passes for journalism these days....
I BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS, BUT THE RIGHT TO BUY ARMS SHOULD BE REGULATED THEN AFTERWARDS MEET AT HIGH NOON!!!!!!!! AND HAVE A DRAW OUT hAHAHA
Drop the scare tactics... It's a 22, not the real thing. You should know what you're talking about before you call something an "assault rifle."
Everyone wants to be Rambo or Dirty Harry. Shit will hit the fan because of states that let's it's citizens wear holsters and six-shooters. People will be called out to meet at high noon for gunfights. Better draw pard or I'll fill ya with lead. Good times for all.
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LMAO @ ".22 assault rifle" and "ammo clips". These are the same types of people that think we should ban the "shoulder thing that goes up".You don't need a "permit to buy a gun from a FFL store in Florida or most states. The 4473 form is not a "permit", it just established that you are a non-felon citizen with a clean record. You don't need a "permit" to exercise a constitutional right as you are a citizen, not a subject.
Right! No such thing as a .22 caliber "assault rifle". Might as well call it a rapid fire BB gun. This is just a scare tactic to enrage ignorant americans.
Regardless of the stance on the Second Amendment, when someone just plain does not do the research, it hurts the credibility of the article. Using terms like "clips" to mean "magazines" or "assault rifle" to mean "rifle" shows a lack of understanding of the subject. Same with picturing a shotgun and calling it an assault rifle (near the top of the article).
You want to know what goes into obtaining a concealed weapons permit? Go ahead. My guess is you'll find the fingerprinting and pre-qualifications will change your current mindset! So the gun laws in Illinois, D.C., Maryland, New York, and Kalifornia(sic) are effective?It seems like Florida, Texas, and other states understand: "the right [of Americans] to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." You don't like guns, don't buy one...perhaps our market economy will bow down to those who vote with their pocketbook...it always has.
Gun Control <><><><><><> Learn some history.........<><><><> Make an educated argument on the subject without a bias opinion....
AA's are legal just got to pay for another stamp. and if anybody in Afghanistan was using 22.....lmaorotffsmh..and to f.b. I think you need to do some research, just as the writer of this article, and it wouldn't hurt for you to get some counseling..I am a female and I love my guns, never without one. although I do have to admit, the AA12 is more weapon than I need, a plain old 12 gauge pump riot with slugs will do more damage at close range than any of the higher velocity weapons, and they ARE used in Afghanistan, not 22.. actually NATO and the UN wanted the USA to destroy all the 223,308, and 7.62 weapons and arm our troops with 22s........lmao Boxer tried to get barrel shrouds banned, and she didn't even know what a barrel shroud was..lmao... ooooo a barrel shroud makes a gun soooo baaadddd.........lmao at idiots who are uninformed know -it -alls... I call this article and the gun banning freaks= Male Enhanced Bovine Manure..
Listen sweetie, I am a paramedic... apparently you dont deal with human remains much. Seems to me like you are the misinformed one. You want to protect your right no matter, Albeit a losing battle. There is no purpose to have such weapons no purpose at all. Yeah I might have the right to have anthrax if im such a microbiology fan, but really? whats the purpose? am i the CDC? chances are my right to have that anthrax is going to threaten the right of others to live in a safe neighborhood. Did you read what you typed? It has no essence, no moral or ethical significance. Like you, it is useless and a detriment to society and if you werent as insignificant and useless as you are, history would eventually admonish you and the parade of morons that give rational americans a bad name. at least I respect those who come at me with a historical argument. You have nothing.
You sir, are an idiot. How can you possibly compare anthrax to a firearm? Anthrax can, and will, pose a significant threat to the surrounding population because it has the ability to spread and kill of its own volition. However, a firearm must be operated by an individual with the intent to do something illegal in order for that firearm to take part. Do you anti-gun simpletons really expect violence to stop because firearms are gone? Did you all forget how bloody war was when everyone had a sword? Just because the current tool that most of the unsavory characters out there use to commit crimes is a firearm doesn't mean we should blame the firearm. If we take them all away I bet you see a rapid rise is clubbings and stabbings...but why bother addressing the fact that the unscrupulous activity is a result of the perpetrator's own action when we could just blame the tool that he used. How can I be charged with a DUI?!?! The car let me drive!!! Let's all ban cars!!! You and your paramedic status mean nothing. I see human remains! Waaaa! Get a different job. What makes you think that you have anything intelligent to add to this conversation because you received 3 weeks of first aid and CPR training. Thanks for being a glorified bus driver. Also, keep your opinions to yourself unless it relates to my improper use of the Heimlich maneuver.
@I hate libersals well-said, and I am somewhat liberal and somewhat conservative. But f b makes no sense, and although most paramedics are pretty good, they aren't RNS or MDs.
Glorified bus driver is a low blow, but the subject wasn't him. It is firearms, and the errors in this article. Also, that if you have a gun, you are likely to be able to stop an armed perpetrator. Good for you, f b, you haven't had a home-invasion or been threatened by someone violent! For the rest of us, who have had it happen or know it can, and are willing to take responsibility for firearm training keep our guns out of the hands of children and loonies, we don't really need to argue. The Second Amendment won't be deleted or compromised.
To Luciferxf, I hope you do great in life as well as your family, as for f b, I hope you run your mouth until the men and women of this fine country hear you, that day will be legendary in your book, because you will learn to respect our flag and our military for once in your life you commie traitor
Another thing Sig..The men and women of this country are not as violent as you might think. Believe it or not. Not everybody sends threats to people they disagree with. The messed-up part about this is that the people who are most unstable and prone to violence and send typical threats are the guys and gals with the big guns. Look you are like the batshit insane wing of the republican party.. the more you talk the more you make rational moderates look bad in comparison. So keep talking... You already have your base, try to convince the people on the fence with that strategy, see how well thats gonna work out for ya
Hey you are a great American like McCarthy. Yeah, wish well to the guy (lucifer) who wished me harm for pointing a few things out... you are another delightful human being. again, to you and to yours..go fuck yourself with a ten foot pole 8)
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I stumbled onto the link from some random web surfing and, while I wasn't surprised surprised at the bias of the article, I was caught off guard at the shear amount of misinformation in it.
I had thought about replying to that until I saw the comments. Seems the internet brings out partisans and trolls from both sides of the debate, making neither look particularly appealing. Not worth my time to wade into that morass.
Fortunately, the Supreme Court has repeatedly reaffirmed my right per the second amendment to keep and bear arms, even if it's a dinky .22LR dressed up as a big, scary "black assault rifle." I'll leave it at that.
"Inside is a matte black assault rifle — a brand-new Colt M16 .22LR. Three ammo clips are scattered around a milk crate full of empty oil cans and a jumbo bottle of Hawaiian Punch."
"Buy a gun from the shop, and you're subject to a background check; buy it from a dude you met that morning on the Internet, and there's no red tape. Six hundred dollars later, you could walk away from Eduardo's car with the kind of high-powered weapon used by Marines in Afghanistan."
Nice writing skills you liberal faggot. Why the fuck would they use a 22lr rifle in Afganistan. Liberal faggot, where did u learn to write at cause you suck major cock.
but seriously... you morons cant handle a simple discussion board. What makes you think you are responsible enough to handle an assault weapon... i think that's check mate and match. go play call of duty or something and let go of the red bull makes you way too intense
btw, you are the type of person who cannot handle the board, everyone here was having a good time until your anti everything speech, go outside and play kid, some day someone will straighten you out and you will learn the value of being American and human
well dude, you attacked the writer that makes you fair game... You know it's like, if your mom is in the corner of 8 street and 27 ave at 3 am i can call her a whore...By the way im treating "you" as a collective..you may or may have not criticized the writer.... but you definitely thought about it..otherwise you wouldnt be commenting. And everything I say to you I direct to the other dudes that blow the NRA board members
He must be, all of you religion based minds are the same, bash bash hate hate is all you pray, thank goodness someone like you only has one outlet, the internet, and while you E Thug the board up maybe you should play call of duty and relieve some of that anger you have, so much hate so much anger can only lead to the dark side
I am a grown ass man, I dont play videogames anymore...I do own stocks of companies that manufacture video games... so maybe im not 100 percent in the clear. maybe im profiting from the proliferation of the gun culture.... interesting moral dilemma you have raised.
Considering I'm just sodomizing all of you, I am having a blast.but keeping wishing that.
You are giving me publicity so you might have some sort of sick attraction towards me.
Getting an SN based on me, not the best move... I feel like I have groupies now...
See ya tomorrow little girl...
sounds like your a fucking baby, grow some balls and get off the internet, never mind me but you started a mess of shit on here, no one cares about you or your opinions, I laugh at ever post you made, must be a joke, that other fellow had me cracking up, I bet you are sitting there about to throw your computer out of the window in how angry you are.
you people actually think I am a "bible nutjob"? I mean, The amount of profanity I have used should be a clear enough sign to you morons that i am not religious. But then again, I'm talking to the people that think being American is all about carrying massive guns. And I love the gay innuendos or the "he cant satisfy his wife" because there is nothing gayer than a bunch of guys getting together in a big sausage fest every weekend at the shooting range playing with Phallic objects that go boom. Until you losers see the results of what an actual assault rifle does, shut the fuck up. You people suck so much at life (i wonder what kind of careers you imbeciles have) that you dont know what i am or what i do or have the slightest clue of why i am an advocate for the assault weapon ban. You are so utterly hopeless that after 7 posts you cant tell. I mean the guy who called me a religious fanatic must be the most retarded person in this particular thread. If the FBI would use you as a profiler you wouldnt catch a serial killer if he was fucking your mom in front of you doggy style at knife point .
To The guy that says I am an angry person, guess what dumb dumb? all advocates against serious issues are angry. I have bagged bodies of human beings with broom & scoop-like devices. I have been to 7 funerals all law enforcement officers ..all close casket funerals. While you morons play your little fantasies (by the way why not join or if you did join, sign up for another tour if you are so hungry for more hamburger meat? just a suggestion)I serve my community. I seen the worse of the worse. I seen a victim of a drive-by shooting, a 7 year old head blown up skull and all with his brains splattered on his 10 year old sisters flowery dress. I seen it all. I seen the worse of Afghanistan in the streets of Miami. Granted, also being present at hundreds of car accidents has added to my collective life experiences...which reminds me. Drive the speed limit and buckle up. Bodies ejected from vehicles are almost as bad to deal with as gun shot victims.
Leonard, first of all, thank you for the considerate reply. And I can appreciate the point of view of somebody who has been into combat. Unlike the other ones here who have no idea of the horrors involved. you do have an understanding of the carnage involved. I have never flown to fight in a foreign land, but I have been shot at 4 times for doing my job in 3 different American cities. I have a special affinity for police officers that have protected me and my brothers all those times. Law enforcement officers are going to urban war zones with no vehicle armor and no body armor much less high caliber high volume fully automatic weapons. Now to the point of who is at fault? Honestly? It doesn't really matter in the end. The laws are such that only the one who pulls the trigger pays the price (most of the time). It is really unfair when you think about it. As weapons of wars, they are fine, in fact like you said, it's not all about accuracy when you are on a firefight in the middle of the night with smoke and other things affecting your line of sight, the more bullets the best.
Every life taken is a loss for humanity. That being said, I will let you know that I am a Life Member NRA supporter. I was in the army from 1965 to 1968. I went to Viet Nam. I saw scores of dead. No, it isn't very pretty, but we are not talking about how good things are in the garden.
There is a major difference between a semi-auto loading rifle (say, an AR-15. It is dressed up as an M16 assault rifle). Hunting weapons are in larger calibres and are meant to take down large animals. They, like the AR style rifles, fire semi-auto. The military use is mostly fully automatic. They don't teach much about accuracy as they do create fire power with just a chance of hitting something. Firing in the semi auto mode, one will take the time to deliver a shot on target. To avoid any confusion, it is not the gun dealers who are responsible for our local carnage. It is criminals who steal guns from other people.
With 200 million Americans, proudly owning guns, we can defend ourselves. I use all of my military looking weapons, rifle or pistol, at the range. My wife and a few other friends of ours had me teach them to shoot. We started by studying safe handling and storage. We shot till I knew these women would refuse to lose. Then they calmed to the point that I could show them how gun maintenance was done. These people had a blast. And, they will live a safer life.
It is better to have a gun and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
Anything from a fist or rock on up, people have always looked for a better weapon. To others who think they know guns, the name AR stands not for "assault rife." It was the name of the company Eugene Stoner had the ARmalite Company build his earlier models. That is the story folks.
I'm glad you find the deaths of Law enforcement officers funny... Makes you feel good inside huh? I think i just owned you dude.. You just have one liners... you have nothing. Go to the gun range while i fuck your wife 8)
You're an angry human being and with such violent visuals surging through what little grey matter you posses, you should be sterilized and kept from breeding. You're posts should be censored and your bank account seized. WORTHLESS
Funny. have you seen the violent and Gory visuals left by assault rifles? and what they do to police officers? they go thru bulletproof vests like they were sheets of toilet papers. The words were supposed to initiate an emotional reaction dumb dumb. If you cant handle the imagery then maybe you dont belong in this discussion. This is not call of duty 4, Assault weapons turn human beings into ground beef.
So does falling out of the window, or tripping down steps. And do I care if a cop dies, any more than I would for a family member. Unlike the military, these guys make a lot of money, and have all the power that they can have over life or death.
True leonard, but we as a society can definitely diminish the unlawful distribution of firearms thru better gun control legislations. We cannot as a society prevent acts of god or accidents. Cops Dont make a lot of money & Soldiers make nothing.... It's unfair to say they make a lot of money(cops) because soldiers dont make anything. It's funny how people call me anti-american (for somehow wanting paperwork to get on the way of gun transactions and other petty regulatory stuff)) when the united states government treats their own veterans like shit. I say anybody that saves your life deserves to at least afford a down payment to a small single family home. I make more than most police officers. besides the occasional pop shot taken at us, I really just patch people up.. or bag them up. Don't face the dangers a patrol officer faces between 10pm-4am
at least grown enough to know the difference between your and you're...and i know it's petty and childish but it does bother mindless morons like you. How was that 28K a year salary working out for you when you were in Iraq? You do realize the government doesn't give a shit about the troops right? Just saying, if im anti-american for not defending assault weapons then the government itself is anti-american for paying you guys as if you worked on best buy.. see ya tomorrow 8)
really did you just pull out a your mom did? And you say your a grown man? Tisk tisk f b, you fail at life in general.
Your mom almost did. But we had a safe word.So it was safe and fun. But your feelings towards me are so heart warming that you really are starting to convince me that you and all assault weapon advocates are not all total tools haha. I hope you get liver cancer Mr. Ted. Have you seen necrosis of the liver? very nasty way to die....yeah i know, im not taking the high road...but i never said I was a nice guy...just an advocate. not all advocates are the tree hugging kind.. You gonna find a few lions in - between the lambs... and no morons, before your start again, that wasnt a biblical reference..it was imagery