New Times: How did you get involved with graffiti art?
BooksIIII: As with most things, it started with a girl. I thought if I painted an entire underpass she would let me slide. It worked.
How has the perception of graffiti changed in the past 20 years?
Immensely. I mean, the same vandals the majority once described as the plague of the urban landscape are now turned to as influencers of the popular culture. These same vandals are collected by the world's greatest museums and collections.
What do you have planned for Art Basel?
We are going to paint the town red. With more than 100 artists coming in from different parts of the world, special events and projects happening throughout the city, and our new space in the Design District, Primary Flight is expanding street art into more communities and to a higher power.
Why the RC Cola plant property?
It's not just about the RC Cola plant. It's about the desolate, blank, urban landscape raped by contemporary advertising. The streets belong to us so we are taking them back, transforming them into something meaningful and relevant to our generation. We want every wall, every building, every underpass, every park bench. This is community development and public art and its finest.
What kind of impact or difference do you feel the Primary Flight work has on the neighborhood or the city?
We make immediate changes. Through us, there is no board, no approval system. Change happens now. The neighborhoods we paint in appreciate what we do, and we create for us, for them. It creates a sense of pride for the community: Urban beautification.
Do you think that graffiti will ever be considered equal to, let's say, impressionism by the art world?
Why would we want to compare? Graffiti/street art is so much more. It is different. It is by the people, in the streets, judged by a panel of our peers. It is here today and gone tomorrow. It has a shelf life, it is an art movement that is specific to all regions of the world that changes more and more over time. It is an organic art form, the rule is that there are no rules. Try teaching that in a college course.
What's your opinion on artists who go over other artist's work without permission?
Retaliation is a bitch.
What's your take on Art Basel?
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