Miami Marlins Keep Lying About Stadium

$38 million: Payroll Loria dumped by the end of July by trading Hanley Ramirez. Before the season, the Marlins owner had upped their payroll to $95 million to help pay for stars Jose Reyes and Mark Buehrle and manager Ozzie Guillen. The spree came after being shamed by leaked financial documents showing he'd banked nearly $50 million in profit while pleading poverty. How? By taking the millions that richer baseball teams share with minnows like the Marlins and then putting them in his wallet instead of buying new sluggers. So much for the new Loria. With the season slipping, he shipped Ramirez, ace pitcher Anibal Sanchez, hot second-baseman Omar Infante, and set-up guy Edward Mujica out of town. Even worse, he's already promised that next year's team budget will be even lower.

$90 million: Increased value of the Marlins franchise this year, according to Forbes. If you pass through Southampton, New York, this fall and hear an ear-shattering cackling coming from a massive mansion, don't worry: It's just Loria rolling around naked in giant piles of cash. The team he bought for $158 million in 2002 is now worth $450 million, by Forbes' reckoning.

One: Protests by anti-Castro groups outside Marlins Park. After Guillen decided to celebrate his move to Little Havana by telling Time magazine he "respects" El Comandante, almost 200 hardliners wailed into megaphones and waved flags outside the team's second homestand.

The giant silver-and-white elephant looms over the blue-collar blocks of Little Havana.
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The giant silver-and-white elephant looms over the blue-collar blocks of Little Havana.

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52: Times that Red Grooms's eyeball-scorching sculpture in center field — nicknamed the "Tremenda Mierda Fountain" by New Times readers in an online poll — erupted with water spouts and flailing dolphins for Marlins home runs (as of Monday). Perhaps it was a blessing in disguise that the Fish were 25th out of 30 teams in homers.

$2.4 billion: Estimated total cost to taxpayers, including ballooning interest rates, for Marlins Park.

Back at the team's penultimate home game last month, after the Marlins' final batter obediently grounded out to second to end another dismal night, black-clad fans shuffled toward the exits, happy at least to have gotten a bobblehead out of the game.

Locals have a hard time finding the good in the giant silver-and-white elephant looming over their blue-collar blocks, though. As the season winds down, residents like Ines Machado — who for 35 years has lived in a two-story home a block north of the stadium — can hardly turn a blind eye to the taxpayer-bleeding succubus looming outside her window. "I used to charge $70 a car to park on my lawn for Orange Bowl games. This place?" she says, gesturing at the ballpark. "This place has done nothing for us."

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wallstreetresearcher
wallstreetresearcher

The Marlins do not pay rent from their revenues.  The Marlins talked the elected officials to loan them the rent money.  Stadium and Garages all cost money.  The taxpayers are forced to pay a minimum of $3 BILLION in interest and principle on the loans taken out to fund the construction.  Remember commissioners Bruno Barrerio, Dennis Moss, Marc Sarnoff, Michelle Spence-Jones and Joe Martinez among others, voted to force the taxpayers to divert money to the Marlins.

waltersobchak1638
waltersobchak1638

If a city wants to spend money on a stadium, then it can. Just don't bring up this garbage about stadiums revitalizing neighborhoods, because if that was true the South Bronx, South Side of Chicago, and downtown Detroit would be the most successful areas in the country. Miami wanted a team and chose to spend it's money on a stadium, so let it do that. 

 

I just hate that this terrible guy Loria will make millions off of public money after what he did to Montreal. Yet his team now can't even outdraw what the Expos drew in their heyday while playing in a concrete pile of a white elephant with terrible sightlines. 

Park
Park

Miami-Dade County Commissioners and City of Miami Commissioners voted to give over $3 Bil of the taxpayers money to the Marlins.  

John
John

what some people do not understand is where the funding actually came from.  you people saying that they should of used to money for teachers and cops is false.  the tax money used from this was from a tourist tax, not property tax, not income tax, just the tourist tax.  this is a small % that tourist pay when they rent a hotel room for example, just one example.  that money cannot be used for teachers and cops, sorry.  if they dont use is for a ballpark, they can only use it for other things that bring in more tourists.  this ballpark is an entertainment venue,  hence its supposed to bring people into the city, therefore creating more tourist taxes being obtained.  that was the whole point of this,   and i should know, i worked on the staidum project. 

Marlins_Man
Marlins_Man

BLKDoggy, absolutely no jobs were lost when the team moved from Sun Life to Marlins Park.  Every Marlins employee had the option to keep their job.  Entire new departments opened.  At Sun Life, Dolphins ownership controlled much more of the operation for baseball than is generally understood. For example, The Dolphins owned and staffed ALL the suites and premium levels at Sun Life for Marlins games.  Those people are STILL employed by the Dolphins, al beit for events other than baseball.  (concerts, soccer, local football, trade shows, etc)

 

Further, growth will take time.  It was foolish to think that a shiny ballpark opened it's gates and BOOM financial windfall for the area.  If that was the case there'd be a ballpark in Overton, Little Haiti and Hallandale Beach too.  Developers have been buying property ALL OVER that area.  I want you to remember your statements a few years from now.  I think people are frustrated about the current state of the economy and how it's affecting them and their projecting that frustration.  I also happen to think if we were watching playoff baseball right now in Miami there'd be A LOT LESS COMPLAINTS about being "swindled" by this new ballpark. 

3Billion
3Billion

$3 Billion.  The taxpayers are forced to pay well over $3 Billion to pay for the Marlins Stadium and Garage.  Must add interest and must include all the new parking garages.   Scam.

miamijob
miamijob

They should have just used Homestead ball park....spent all the money on a stadium and they came last wow

blk1doggy
blk1doggy

Sorry Marlins Man but I disagree. The 'new' jobs that were created were either jobs that were lost from the Sun Life stadium ( or what ever its' called this week) or transferred. So the amount of 'new' jobs created are actually much lower.   The 'new' bar  on 17 and 7th ?  Isn't that the old Bowl Bar with a new name ?  That's been around since the 70's.  Who has profited from this ? Certainly not the city. Where is the revitalization in Little Havana , other than the huge fancy looking  money pit  they call a stadium ?  Sorry but the City of Miami got suckered Again. 

mauriceab
mauriceab

Miami professional sports has gone awry. The metric for team ownership and government  is the Robbie Rule; owners pay for their own stadiums with their own sources of funds with no government sponsor.  Robbie Rule requires involved, responsible and active owners with all constituents, and only expects from its fans to root for the home team...not burden the city with three politicos and one private greedy individuals who misled the city and the bond rating agencies (SEC investigation). Our city would have greater ROI investing its bond dollars/creditworthiness in schools as well improving our debt rating to have better bond terms. Emotional business decisions only generate division amongst its citizenry.

eencinosa
eencinosa

FINALLY!!!!! Someone is saying something about the disgusting politcians blaming only the UNIONS for their debt and bad decisions.... no one mentions this STUPID.. and I MEAN STUPID waste of money that the COUNTY and not the CITY in which the park is actually in will be making the profit.... HOW DUMB could this banana republic be.... Regalado is a false joke of a man... with little to no exprerience other than "one hand washes the other" type deals.... but hey... the unions suck the unions have been getting pay cuts for 3 YEARS in a ROW!!!! No supplies no uniforms no cost of living increases... but alll you bastards in the private sector want yours too.... I say the idiots in the city are getting what they deserve with this CANCER of a PARK.....boo hoo... the officials YOU elected screwed you... wow... I'm so surprised... and I'm even more surprised... you still are swallowing all their garbage against unions.....

cubanogm
cubanogm

I wonder how much the senile millionaire Braman paid this guy to write this piece of "mierda".I tell the lnez Machado that after the Orange Bowl was demolished she could not charge not $70 but $0.007 for parking.LOL.I say and repeat it.I was going to buy 2 season tickets and as soon as they brought the useless,he has proven useless,disgusting chavista,fidelista of Guillen,I decided not to buy the tickets and like me quite a few of my friends.When the Marlins decide to dump the piece of "mierda" manager/coach Guillen me and my friends will buy those season tickets.

Marlins_Man
Marlins_Man

Miami Fans are the worst!  The only thing that you can count on from them isn't unconditional support, it's COMPLAINING.  You have a Major League team in the heart of your city and you're complaining.  First, people would complain that driving ALL THE WAY up to Sun Life was too much.  Now, people complain about driving into ALL THAT TRAFFIC.  Get over it, it's a city - show me one without traffic!

 

One guy has the nerve to complain that "baseball should be played indoors", give me a break!  You know what baseball ISN'T played in?  THE RAIN!  And it rains nearly everyday during baseball season in South Florida.  So sorry you have to put up with the inconvenience of an air conditioned, retractable roof stadium...

 

Charging people $70 to park is criminal.  I'm am sorry the stadium hasn't had the economic boom that politicians promised, but I'm glad I don't have to pay $70 to park there.  That's outrageous - and I don't have facts to support this, but I'm willing to bet no one has paid over $40 to park there since 2002 (back when The U was still dominating).  That was 2 wars, 2 Presidents and 1 Great Recession ago.  No one will pay that now.

 

The stadium DID revitalize Little Havana.  That area has been desolate and empty FOR YEARS!  Residents and activists need to project their efforts and anger over this elsewhere.  It's not the stadium's fault that this area has been falling off for decades.  That's reflective of a much larger problem than a 37,000 seat stadium.  At least this builds some inertia and incentive for businesses and people to return to the area.  Before Marlins Park, the only reason anyone would go to that part of town is because of the Court System.

 

The article and the message board are missing one huge positive that Marlins Park has brought to the area - HUNDREDS OF FULL TIME JOBS!  Everybody wants to slam the team, the park and the officials , but give credit where it's due.  Hundreds of people now have gainful employment in the area THAT DID NOT EXIST BEFORE.  It really is a shame that Miami New Times (or readers, for that matter) continue to neglect to report this. 

 

 

drakemallard
drakemallard topcommenter

Every year, millions of taxpayer dollars are poured into stadiums, 
hockey rinks, baseball parks, and other arenas in order to attract and retain 
professional sports teams in big cities.  Often the money is spent by 
the cities after a team "threatens" to leave the city.When that happens, of course, the local news media act as the willing
accomplices of the billionaires who own the teams.When city and state governments build facilities for sports organizations which are owned by billionaires, and raise taxes as a result, it is clearly an abuse of power.


it time for more recalls /jail time

 

 

 NO taxpayer should be paying for this - period

Juan R. Pollo
Juan R. Pollo

I like the stadium, I like the Marlins, I like going to the games and I like thumbing my nose at all the nay-sayers, which are a pretty good representation of the Obama generation. Phooey all of you.

Jimbo99
Jimbo99

MLB should be played outdoors. I used to go to 20 games, this season, only 2 games. I gave the place a chance, but decided that this venue is no different than the AAA for the Heat. At the end of the day, just can't see myself ever going back, simply becasue the stadium really does make the game impersonal. At Sun Life, players were closer in the outfield, now, you can look down at them from the upper deck and they are tiny figurines.And don't get me started by eliminating the Mermaids & Manatees. The Marlins are rebranded for sure, they might as well give back the 2 WS titles too. Leave those in Miami Gardens too.

rikster043
rikster043

It's so disappointing every time I look out in to the Miami Sky line and see this disaster of a building.  They should have just renovated the Orange Bowl (which had multiple uses) and used the rest of the money to fund all the struggling city departments (police, fire fighters, teaches, etc) that for the last 3 years have been experiencing lay offs and pay cuts due to the corruption of the City.  It is baffling how the City has been manipulated by this less than par baseball organization.  Now that's what we call being a come mierda!!

Nicole Laracuente LaConcha
Nicole Laracuente LaConcha

you need to keep in mind also that many people are without jobs or struggling and it isnt cheap to go to a game; we area family of 5 and have gone to a few games and its not cheap.

Jenn EV
Jenn EV

true corruption of tax payer dollars! pro sports are only a distraction from politics, even down to the local level!

Raul A Maestri Jr.
Raul A Maestri Jr.

....hmmm if nly they had added a metrorail line, an entertainment park (movie theaters, shopping, and maybe tie in some concerts...) nah! that would make too much sense...

Danny Arango
Danny Arango

The Miami marlins are a joke on and off the field an they should be sued and/or tried in a criminal court for their lies and thievery. I could insert a bunch a curse words to further convey my disgust but I'll keep it clean for the kids.

Jason E Cole
Jason E Cole

Miami news burns me! complain about something would ya!

Boukman Mangones
Boukman Mangones

The Commissioners should not be handed a scapegoat either..

ezradv
ezradv

I will never go to a baseball game at the new stadium.  I'm tired of bending over.

miamitrev2
miamitrev2 topcommenter

Nice to throw in the quote from a  comemierda claiming she "charged $70 per car for games at The Orange Bowl"

me15nsa
me15nsa

@geoffglaab Wow, they didn't even have to draft a profit-prohibitive lease with a local university to create that fiasco.

ElAlfa
ElAlfa

The team this year suck. The attendance went for 19000 to almost 28000 per game which it is pretty good. Don't expect sellouts unless the team can win 90 something games in a consistent basis.

The stadium it is very nice not a white elephant. Every stadium built in America uses tax dollars, look at the Yankees and Mets for example.

As a baseball fan i'm very happy we now have a baseball stadium and not the concrete dome we had before.

AlexParkerDC
AlexParkerDC

.@Richard_Florida @SteveKoss Pretty much every sports arena ever.

Anthonyvop1
Anthonyvop1 topcommenter

 @ElAlfa Joe Robbie Stadium and the New Dallas Cowboy Stadium were privately funded.

What I really love is all these people complaining about the politicians when they are the very same people who voted for these left-wing cronies.

 
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