Sams left UF in 2010 for a state-of-the-art private lab in Kentucky. He doesn't miss working with limited funds and one hand tied behind his back. "They were crude and outdated methods," he says. "I wouldn't propose that anybody use them."

Florida combines lax testing with some of the nation's weakest penalties. Consider: Of 15 recent violations in seven states for use of caffeine (which can boost horses' performance), 14 resulted in trainers being suspended or horses being disqualified. Not in Florida, however, where the trainer escaped with just a $250 fine.

State leaders seem disinclined to address the issue. Of more than a dozen pari-mutuel bills proposed by this year's Legislature, none suggested harsher penalties or increased testing standards.

Sole Runner races to victory on June 28.
Michael E. Miller
Sole Runner races to victory on June 28.
Jockey Jonathan Gonzales and trainer Kirk Ziadie after Sole Runner's surprise win.
Michael E. Miller
Jockey Jonathan Gonzales and trainer Kirk Ziadie after Sole Runner's surprise win.

On a federal level, meanwhile, the Times investigation has spurred some action. Thirty-four years after Congress last regulated horse racing, New Mexico Sen. Tom Udall called a hearing last month to discuss the "alarming level of corruption and exploitation" in the sport. "Horse racing... has run off the rails," he said. "The chronic abuse of horses with painkillers and other drugs is just plain wrong."

Udall is proposing a stark reform: banning all drugs from horse racing, with no variations between state and federal oversight. Any positive drug test would disqualify a horse and suspend its trainer. Three violations would ban a trainer for life.

Don't expect that kind of change to come easily. Among those testifying in Washington were Kent Stirling, executive director of the Florida Horsemen's Benevolent and Protective Association.

"The New York Times' assertions are badly flawed and seriously misleading," Stirling said before bizarrely claiming a drug ban would be dangerous. "The call for a medication ban is premised on misconceptions by industry participants who put their own agenda ahead of the welfare of horses and jockeys."

Marshall says Calder would consider supporting a federal agency overseeing horse-racing standards. "If it would make racing a better sport, sure, we'd consider it," he says.

Ironically, the biggest threat to Calder might not be corruption, drug use, or regulation, experts say. Rather, as at tracks across Florida, slot machines are replacing the messier, more expensively maintained world of trainers, jockeys, and thoroughbreds. Like Gulfstream Park and Hialeah Park, Calder is now a "racino," having added slots and card tables in 2010. On some race days, a couple dozen old-timers watch a race from the grandstands. Meanwhile, inside Calder's new casino, thousands tempt their fate with the tap of a computer screen.

"Track owners don't want to have horse and dog racing," gambling expert Jarvis says. "It's very expensive. Profits are just not very good."

For now, Calder and other tracks can operate casinos only if they maintain their horse racing. Marshall says, "Horse racing remains at the center of everything we do."

But Calder and other racetracks' promise to Florida that winning purses would increase with the casino revenue hasn't happened, according to Jarvis. "That was the lie that was told," he says. "Their argument was that gambling meant bigger purses, better horses coming to Florida, more people at the tracks, and more people gambling. It was supposed to be good for the state and good for racing. But it was nonsense."

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locomoco
locomoco

Crooks, Crooks and more Crooks. Anytime there is money involved. Money becomes the number one priority. Forget the integrity of the sport or the well being of the horses. Screw the customer and take all their money at any cost...I been going to calder for over 20 years and i have seen scams there that leave you stunt. Why do you think there is no quality horses or trainers at calder. For a while not even  VEGAS would take bets for Calder. BUT EVERYBODY GETS THERE IN THE END!! KARMA IS A BITCH!!!

ted.mizerak
ted.mizerak

As usual another article bashing horse racing by a writer that knows nothing about the sport. Please go to www.thoroughbredrulings.com and look up any respected horse trainer and look at the number of violations. Joe Woodard has 61 violation, Steve Asmussen (most wins in nation) has 43 rulings, Tom Amoss 15, etc etc. Why single out Kirk ? Do more research before you cast blame on one man.

Thegospeltruth
Thegospeltruth

Three people mentioned in this article are paranoid about everything and everybody.  The world is against these three individuals.  Don't believe me?  See all the stories that come up when you Google "Denis Fisher South African Horse trainer" and "Gina Silvestri and Calder Race Course."

DirtyYellowVisor
DirtyYellowVisor

 

Dennis I see you got a new person to listen to all your conspiracy theories

MoseswiththeTabloids
MoseswiththeTabloids

Didn't even want to go near the Cross, Cantrell BS. You want kickbacks, graft and corruption, look at any state governement. They are the masters. Smiley face.

MoseswiththeTabloids
MoseswiththeTabloids

Not exactly fair and balanced journalism.  Hard to take it seriously with the Asian Massage parlor advertisement popping up. And to the author, please at least do some cursory homework. Stallions breed. They don't race. Oh and horses enter the track, not the stadium.  And unless you're in jolly old England, bookmakers went the way of the Edsel. I would also question Jarvis with regards to the corrolation of purses to slots. In many cases, New York has seen a huge increase directly attributable to slots. Similarly, when Atlantic City helped subsidize Monmouth Park maiden races were carded at $ 80,000. And I always love the non specific terms such as "drugs" and "doping". Especially when that powerful painkiller bute, is aspirin. Not saying Ziade is innocent, but how many of these violations were for cobra venom, or truly ILLEGAL drugs. Horses are often given steroids, (as are humans) to help them heal quickly when used correctly. The contradiction is hard to ignore as well. Let's see, Ziade is doping his horses, so they run beyond their pain tolerence, but he's guilty of giving his horse a tranquilizer. So in theory he wins because he's doping, fixing races because he's giving tranquilizers....Got it. Didn't realize Kirk was such a multi tasker. Finally, Dennis Fisher and Rene Wagner are not exactly Ogden Phipps and Wayne Lukas.  They are both pikers in an industry that swallows those liitle minnows with glee. Wagner has earned exactly $ 16,545 in her sparkling career of 46 starts while Fisher can't pay the bills with his $ 567 per start over a 7 year period. Let's be real, you didn't need a battery to beat these horses. All you had to do is show up. Trainers like this are routinely denied stalls because THEY DO NOT EARN!. The rest of the article is spot on.

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

it still is less risk than the stock market on wall street for "entertainment" value

 

i remember forty years ago jockeys were taken from YONKERs RACEway in a big scam and i cannot think this sport will ever be "clean" even forty year in the future from now - period

 

the only reason it exists is that people have to actually want to participate so who really cares that these various agendas are being pursued among the players, some who are legitimate can go and file lawsuits against the others

 

if gamblers want to gamble - so what ?

jockeylydon
jockeylydon

I work at Calder. Your words are giving an impression that is way off course. Your hurting a great business by giving the impression of so many ugly over exaggerated truths. Your missing the very truth of the amount of drugs found positive on horses, is the amount you can fit on the tip of a needle. NOBODY shares that part in their story. It is true that the "SO CALLED DRUGS" are the same as Advil. It is unfair for theses horses that are incredible athletes that love to run, will be getting their bute taken away.  There has been a legal amount which is the same amount as you taking two aspirins. The projection of it being the reason it breaks horses down is NUTS. Therefore, this out of control, over exaggerated rumor of drugs are going to take away the very little thing that does make them feel a little bit more comfortable. Advil doesn't make me win a game but it does help me to feel better. That is COMMON SENSE. I am a athlete and every once in a while before I ride, I need Advil. The break down are more so due out of the LACK OF Horseman that get the license to train such an amazing animal and the do not do the right thing by them. There are many trainers that complain to get those type of people off the grounds. Sadly, your story leaves out the majority of people in our business that LOVE them and bring out the best in them. Sadly, you pick on a man who DOES fed his horses great and bed them very well as he has serious personal issues. I, like SO MANY, in our industry care for horses by fueling them with proper care and compassion. Story like yours and so many more like you, are going to kill horses due to closing tracks down with falsely projecting such a negative industry and theses horses will have no where to go but slaughter houses. Who is the killer now? AND SHAME ON OBAMA for bring back horse slaughter in our Country. It just breaks my heart he didn't come up with a plan to stop horses from being transported over the boarders to Canada or Mexico. Many more options but Validating killing them here is sick. Shame on any KILL shelters for animals. But, that is a different story I can go off on.

Being a insider, I am disappointed in your story leaving out anything good that you and other reporters, obviously do not care about.

RichRoma
RichRoma

After re-reading the article again, I feel the need to clarify one other item:  

 

"Yet a New Times investigation shows Calder officials knew for five years about Ziadie's record of positive drug tests but did nothing. Interviews with former Calder employees and horsemen also suggest the course cared more about keeping mum and making money than protecting horses and jockeys."

 

If you read that paragraph and couple that with the line above it regarding the bookmaker's choice, you may incorrectly assume that ANY horse track has a vested stake in the outcome of a race. The way the pari-mutuel system works (and how tracks derive their income) is a % taken facilitating the exchange between two gamblers. As an example, if  I bet $5 on the 5 and Mr. Miller bets $10 on the 6, if the 6 wins the race, Mr. Miller gets my money. Conversely, if the 5 beats the the 6, I win Mr, Miller's money. That is how the odds are figured. More money=lower odds BECAUSE there will be more winners. With that said, and using this example, the track takes $.20 of each dollar that I AND Mr. Miller bet and pool the rest back into the 'pool'. So quite literally, the track wants you to WIN. Why? Well, it is exponentially more likely that if you win, you will bet again. And when you do, win or lose, the track gets $.20 on each dollar you bet...win OR lose. Just wanted to clear that up for anything who may have extrapolated incorrectly.

RichRoma
RichRoma

Some points of clarification: First, there are no bookmakers legally operating in the United States and taking bets on horse races. The system used is pari-mutuel wagering where the odds are determined based on the dollars wagers by the fans.  Next, when Raisinaboveonly and Carlos Camilo ran and was supposedly 'plugged in' (industry term for a jockey carrying a battery): 1. It took place at Gulfstream Park....not at Calder as insinuated 2. The horse was 168-1 in the race and had not finished better than 5th in over 2 years, with the large majoirty of those races being significantly 'easier' than the race in question. Based on the above facts, it's taints the entire article (for me anyway). Upon further research, trainer Rene Wagner has NEVER, again NEVER won a pari-mutuel horse race in North America. Record stands at 0 for 46 with 1 second, 1 third and career earnings of $16,545. So I think the facts safely illustrate that the Wagner portion of the story and everything involved in it is simply unfair and sour grapes from those involved. My sympathies to them all.... With respect to the Kirk Ziadie portion of the story, I have no objections. The facts listed seem to be accurate and journalistic freedoms being what they are, I cannot gripe about that. My other point of contention stems from the insinuation that the HBPA 'bizarrely claims that drug ban would be dangerous.' I think it rather presumptous that the author took the liberty to use the word 'bizarre' without substantiating why he felt the comment to be bizarre and what frame of reference he had for making such a statement. It did not strike me as objective nor based in fact. I can summarize my thoughts on the article by saying that it was written by someone who clearly does not have a strong handle on the horse racing industry and insinuations were made by the author that are either factually incorrect (as illustrated with Wagner) or without the proper frame of reference established for making the statements. That is to say, if we were in court, the author could not be called to give 'expert testimony' and thus, could not assert many of the insinuations and facts as they are listed here.

wrobriordan
wrobriordan

"Corporate Greed" is destroying what is good in everything we know as human. All government will be brought to it's knees once again for this neglect to human life. In its simplest form of demise, it eats at every core value that we are instilled with from little innocent kids. Honesty, compassion, are a few on the list of good, but are thrown out the window when we graduate into the real world of staying ahead. Devious, ruthless, become the everyday way of life. We work hard at our education, and are rewarded by the hand that will take all mankind to an end. It is sad, but is the truth!!! 

farstar
farstar

This piece is wrapped in a lot of irresponsible innuendo. For instance not all longshots are drugged and not all favorites that lose is due to criminal intent. Focus your message on nailing the cheaters and the abusers and be sure to recognize the presence in all professional sport and gaming operations. You need to be a horseman to write accurately about the sport or have someone edit your work that is. I suppose Joe Namath was on steriods when Jets beat Colts. Very poor article!!    

dennis.fisher
dennis.fisher

Come on wagering public horseman/tax payers and American/International simulcast audience etc John Marshall has to be the biggest liar of all times, he knows everything of owner/trainer Dennis Fisher/Rene Wagner/Gabriel Myatt/Gina Sivestlvestry lawsuits and manipulation events even to the 200 lawsuits filed against Churchill Downs (CDI) and their associated companies racetracks by disgruntled horseman and wagering public etc. But the catch 22 to the Steve Cross white collar crimes it was secretly well supported by certain unnamed high authorized co -conspirators namely Thomas Meeker/Robert Evans the late Sir Graham Beck (deceased July 2010) known as the mastermind to the late Bobby Umphrey Ken Dunn/Antony Beck to Frank Stronach -Joseph De Francis - Kenny Noe - Jeffery Noe and other Churchill Downs shareholders and executives. How do they Churchill Downs executives ad certain shareholders explain about their former Vice President  Roy Schneider and the Chairman of CDI namely Carl Pollard and certain unnamed co-conspirators of CDI Kentucky Derby ticket scandal meaning money laundering etc or deliberate theft of moneys from the CHDN Nasdaq company, to the eye opener of all time the housing and employment of illegal aliens on and around their private property racetracks like Calder Racetrack as only one example, note certain executives and certain shareholders/management like John Marshall - Austin Miller - to questionable security officer Steve Diamond/Kent Sterling/Tim Ritvo/Sammy Gordon and obviously the questionable CDI/- Calder/ Gulfstream Park - MID Group former mickey Mouse Steward Jeffery Noe who was part and parcel of the king of the Calder faggots David Brownlee the organizer of the Calder swinger parties etc. bear in mind the list that goes on and on etc who undoubtedly have supplied all these illegal aliens for over 30 years with false social security numbers which has allowed for CDI/MID Group's State Department puppets to State register these illegal aliens which allowed the above CDI/MID Group hierarchy to supply these illegal aliens used as cheap labor with false identification cards or badges so that they can cash weekly wages earned on and around CDI/MID Group's private property racetracks etc. obviously a major eye opener and mind blower to their private property banking system and INS/IRS conniving schemes which by any Court of Law is as a criminal offence to the 10th degree    

dennis.fisher
dennis.fisher

Wake up horse racing fans and enthusiast, the Elite Breeders/owners led by the late Sir Graham Beck (deceased July 2010) Gainesway Farm /Thomas Meeker - Antony Beck - Joseph De Francis - Frank Stronach - Robert Evans etc known as the Horse racing rat pack are to blame for the destruction of the Thoroughbred horse racing industry meaning the fixing of races which enables them the Rat Pack to secretly attain personal tax free financial wealth from their private property racetracks, which allows them as self Governing Masonic bodies to drug horses with their schedule 7 horse racing cocktail drugs. In other words there is more going on than what the human eye of the trustworthy wagering public and tax payers can see or their intellect can understand.  Come on lets face the facts to why are there so many race horses breaking down at daily race meetings via American race tracks, which have to be euthanize or retired etc. Simply because of the illegal use of the degrading horse cocktails named as M99 etc - Morphine nicknamed Elephant Juice - Snake Venom - Dermorphin nicknamed Frog Juice etc, which has spread through out the world of horse racing, remember the champion horse named George Washington trained by the Englishman, who broke down in the Breeders Cup run at Churchill Downs simply loaded with elephant Juice and sublimaze - not forgetting Eight Bells in the Kentucky Derby how she broke both her front legs after the races and recently winners like I'll have Another and even Union Rags winner of the Breeders Cup etc that had to be retired recently because of distressful breakdowns of the secret use of horse cocktails like Dermorphin (frogs juice) -M99 (Morphine) nicknamed Elephant Juice - Snake Venom etc. The above scheduled 7 illegal drugs undoubtedly numbs the horses brains and releases all pain etc - which then creates horse to be as junkies who run their hearts out until they break down in many different ways or mannerisms. Is it a coincidence or fact that certain quarter horse and Thoroughbred  trainers in Louisiana have been caught in 2012 for the use of the illegal drug called Frog Juice   - Dermorphin, remeber that the above drug Frog Juice is about +- 20 years old, like Elephant Juice which is 30 years old which has been cleverly yet secretly used by the Elite Breeders/ owners of Kentucky - California - New York to Florida etc on their horses via their hand picked trainers meaning former quarter horse trainers and their assistants now converted to Thoroughbred trainers and certain of the Beck's/Thomas Meeker/De Francis- Stronach pay role vets which has been for over 30 years 

Unknown or unrealized the above Elite Breeders and certain owners horse cocktails are used way before horses are due to race (30 days or so) which is then supported by the use of sublimaze (fentinal) 30 minutes before a race. A typical case of miss management by Todd Pletcher and his questionable vets was the case with Life at Ten in the Breeders Cup in 2010. But notice the blame  for the failure of Life at Ten was placed onto honorable Kentucky State Steward and Hall of Fame Trainer John Veitch,  what a joke! Recall John Veitch was fired by Churchill Downs Inc who operate like MID Group as self Governing Masonic bodies (Government unto themselves) meaning over the Kentucky States etc  

Please refer to conspired corruption.wordpress.com for more facts of horse racing being fixed!   

305carolann
305carolann

Horse racing is one step up from Greyhound racing - both are fucking sickening... nothing like watching a horse being euthanized right on the track...

Shell Cribbs
Shell Cribbs

No i moved out of miami and left the hater behind. Lol. Its just so sad that NO good news ever comes from there. Only shady business in sunny south Florida.

Mark
Mark

This story contains truths and half truths but is primarily off the mark. The "Cross scandal' has nothing to do with racing. The so called widespread drugging of horses does not take place. Drug dealing occurs at many places and a great bet is that its occurred and is still ongoing at the New Times. Im not a fan of this disgusting paper. They like to investiagte people and never know the real truth. I've seen this on several occasions!!!!! PS Horses are strong yet very fragile and their form does not hold well which is why favored horses lose 66% of the time-not because of a fix.The last three major sports champions were ALL underdogs.The 2011 St.Louis Cardinals, the 2012 NY Giants and the 2012 Miami Heat. All underdogs yet still won. Are those sports cheating too?

Shell Cribbs
Shell Cribbs

Cheaters in south Florida? Nooooo can't be!!!!! Not Florida! ! :-/

dennis.fisher
dennis.fisher

Great article, finally the truth comes out - that John Marshall is an absolute liar from the pit of hell

renewagner
renewagner

 @Thegospeltruth The 3 people mentioned and others have worked hard at saving the lives of the horses and jockey's that can be seriously hurt by the abuse of some of these trainers/owners/breeders that are "needle happy" - the reason why you can find all this info on the internet is because it is put there by these 3 people, in order to educate the ignorant public, such as yourself - here go to the website created www.conspiredcorruption.wordpress.com, but if that isn't enough information for you here is some more form other journalist: Louisiana HBPA (horsemen association in Louisiana) the directors plead guilty to not only stealing $25 million of the horsemen's money that they had settled for in a lawsuit, in which they where supposed to get $95 million but also used social security numbers of members in regard to mail fraud - http://www.wwltv.com/news/Defendant-in-horsemens-scandal-expected-pleads-guilty--112318079.html and http://conspiredcorruption.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/investigation-1-19-2010-louisianna-2.pdf 

Now is you feel that we are still paranoid why don't you go tell that to Senator John D. Rockefeller at the Senate Hearing in Washington D.C on July 12,2012 who said,"Unfortunately, the inappropriate use of otherwise therapeutic medication in racehorses has long been a problem that has plagued the sport.  Medication such as phenylbuterol or “bute” can legitimately help in the healing process of an ailing horse.  But when bute is used to mask pain on an unsound horse so that he or she can race on the track, the drug becomes an abusive practice that puts the life of the horse and jockey at risk.  Other drugs, such as cobra venom or demorphine, which is a powerful painkiller recently discovered in over 30 horses in 4 different states and is found on the skin of South American tree frogs, have absolutely no therapeutic value and are used purely to cheat.  Any trainer caught using these types of cruel drugs should be banned from the sport."  - I will take it one step further, these people who are using these drugs for personal wealth should go to jail - maybe you need to get paranoid Thegospeltruth - but here is some more if the info provided hasn't clearly proven the point http://conspiredcorruption.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/possible-ticket-scandal.pd - Rita Grundwell a breeder stole $30 million from her home town, they had to close public schools because of her Corporate Greed, White Collar Crimes and State Crimes - now that's the gospel truth!!!!!

renewagner
renewagner

 @DirtyYellowVisor Why is everyone such a bunch of cowards on this website - looks like Fisher's so called conspiracy theories weren't to wrong after all, hey Dirty - maybe if you had a set of balls like the people mentioned in this story, who are still going thru what fisher and his family experienced, then maybe you wouldn't feel the need to be such a coward, Like Humphrey's wasn't a drug addict? Stoney McLaughlin wasn't such a crooked pig, like Cruz doesn't fix races and ride with a buzzer, O, wait I guess Enron never happened either - or Madoff is just a ghost - wait , wait, wait Rita Crundwell a breeder didn't she allegedly steal $30 million - your name shouldn't be Dirtyyellow, it should be YELLOW BELLY, like the rest of the horsemen who have turned a blind eye to the corruption and want to then give a big long speech about how they love their horses, yeah love them as long as you can stick a nail into them, drug them up and for them to bring home a check.. You can write your cheap little pathetic coward statement, dupe - but the facts are loud and clear - I guess you never listened to that hearing before the Senate at Washington D. C., I guess now they must also be a bunch of conspiracy theorist.....lol - you must be so soar :) and tormented to write something so pathetic.....lol

Disillusioned
Disillusioned

 @MoseswiththeTabloids You are part and parcel of the problem with horse racing - finally a journalist comes out with the truth and you nit pick on bull shit, why don't you rather comment on the number of times Zaidie got caught and that the officials turned a blind eye or the millions Zaidie got away with - it is more than just bute that these guys are being caught for, it has just not come out properly yet - but it started at the Senate hearing in Washington. These guys like Zaidie,Baffet, Lukas, Pletcher, elite breeders and owners etc are using "M99", "Elephant jucice" - in regards to Wagner and Fisher - Wagner in 2007got a letter from Gov Charlie Crist about how they are going to open and re-open up a multi- State MASONIC investigation into horse racing and its masonic ties- so no Wagner or Fisher would never like to be a Phepps or Lukas those drug abusing, drug pumping, stealing from the horsemen and public alike trainers - Fisher and Wagner where persecuted  a long time out for opening and exposing the drug abuse, and illegal wagering and not to mention giving illegal aliens false social security numbers - OMW,  not to mention Wagner and her 10 horses she personally owned where placed on the Stewards list since 2010, and while being 7 months pregnant was assaulted by Shorty the pony women and Calder guess what, turned a blind eye( guess what Calder and CDI set this up and used her as a lacky) - John Marshall personally told Wagner after she took her groom who Steve Diamond used as a snitch for a drug bust @ Calder that "if you are lying you will never race at Calder again." (Lying about Steve Diamond using her groom as a snitch for a drug bust ) O, wait a minute Steve Diamond tried that with Myatt as well Wagner and Fisher having been exposing this for years and now it has come to light - So why don't you take your blinkers off Moses - you seem to be like the Moses in the bible who led the people the wrong way for 40 years!!!! - Here Moses use this as a tabloid - http://conspiredcorruption.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/copy-of-rw-letter-from-state.pdf @ www.conspiredcorruption.wordpress.com - 

Michael.Miller
Michael.Miller

 @farstar Nowhere does the article claim that all long-shots are cheaters. Ziadie's record speaks for itself. If you read the article, you would know about his 41 drug violations, nearly all of them within a five year period. You would also know about Calder's internal investigation into Ziadie, in which one of the trainer's own employees brought forward syringes of performance enhancing chemicals that Ziadie had allegedly ordered injected into the horses. Read the story before you write it off.

dennis.fisher
dennis.fisher

 @Mark Come on Mark you are allowed your opinion about the newspaper, but at least they are not like the other news media's or television broadcasting stations that are on the pay role of Churchill Downs Inc and their co-conspiartors MID (Magna) Group and certain Government Departments who are merely yes sir no sir because of vested interest the part of drugging horses Mark you are very wrong is happening 24x7   

Bebep
Bebep

Well at least you cleared absolutely nothing up.

Thegospeltruth
Thegospeltruth

 @renewagner

 I've got no use for Calder or its management, but you three are paranoid kooks which you basically admitted when you identified yourself as that 3rd missing paranoid person.  You love to ramble on in your responses and make little sense.  What does the LA HBPA have to do with this article and your clueless responses?  John D Rockefeller did not Chair the recent Senate hearing, Senator Udall did.  Other than Udall only 2 other Senators showed up of the 30 plus Senators on the Commerce committee, and then each for only a few minutes.  I never heard of "phenylbuterol" although I do know phenylbutazone is known as bute and can't mask pain so a lame horse could race. You actually are correct about dermorphin, and then you go off on a  tangent about some breeder somewhere stealing $30,000,000 from her home town.  Do you actually ever read what you write? 

DirtyYellowVisor
DirtyYellowVisor

I didn't know they had internet access at the homeless shelter

dennis.fisher
dennis.fisher

 @FUCKYOU identify yourself half breed! That's easy to say, you Calder goon! Can't handle the truth - that must my be your last name. Is this Niki Hattingh the illegal alien that CDI and Calder gave a false social security number to...hahaha - you obviously have something to hide...lol

renewagner
renewagner

 @Thegospeltruth O, your one of those self - righteous assholes, everyone speaks shit and is no good, but you and your mouth piece - good luck to you Ostrich with it's head stuck in the sand, let's see who wins in the end....hahahaha - you admit to not even knowing  about phenylbuterol, then your not a horsemen and a waste of time, but you are a lucifierian - you know like Lucifer in the gospel

Thegospeltruth
Thegospeltruth

 @renewagner  @Thegospeltruth

 Then I take delight in making you sick!  Barry Irwin is a loud-mouth buffoon, sort of like you and your friends, Witman said nothing of any interest and wasted time speaking.  As for Sheila Lyons, she is one of the biggest phonies I have ever seen, and would fit right in with  your gang!   I listened to your boyfriend rant on that website he mentioned until I was sick.  You guys are all looney-tunes and truly deserve one another!

renewagner
renewagner

 @Thegospeltruth I''m not embarrassed to let people know what I stand for, that is why my name is out there. The reason why I mentioned LAHBPA, Rita Grundwell and so forth is to show there is a problem all over America, if your not offended at $55 million of horsemen money (in just these two instances)  being spent on lavished holidays, parties and retirement plans for these people who stole this money, and if your not offended that public schools had to be closed because they couldn't afford to keep them open, if your not offended that the money stolen has affected the lives of those children, who are now in a lower education level because of this theft. Then you need to go to hospital and get a heart, this time try not to order a black one.

 

Udall read Rockefeller's Statement on his behalf - so what's your point - did you hear or even download the statements from Barry Irwin, Sheila Lyons, Witman. With this journalist who mentions about Lyons and websites going up all over the place starting to take action to clean up horse racing, it's a huge step, the only unfortunate part is that when they really start pricking and probing they are going to find more and more corruption, and that is what is going to be the hard part to clean up.

 

So if your not offended and going off on a tangent, then maybe it's because you have never had the unfortunate experience of having to watch a horse starve to death because he has broken down and is no longer earning a wage check or watching a horse go threw withdrawal symptoms because of the amounts of drugs pumped into him over a period of time, that his body learned to depend upon but is not longer receiving  - well then how lucky for you. But if this isn't the reason, then you should be ashamed of yourself - now that's going off on a tangent, the other stuff was just gravy. And yes, I read what I write, but what makes me sick is what you write!

renewagner
renewagner

 @thegospeltruth My name is mentioned in the article, so I don't think anyone was wondering, you Calder goons really need to do a little bit better than this!

renewagner
renewagner

 @DirtyYellowVisor spoken like a real coward! But see how wrong you are, you can't even get this right....soar tormented yellow belly....lol, hahahaha - I wonder how it feels to be wrong

 
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