Jay-Z and Eminem top Rick Ross, Lil Wayne, and Drake

Luther "Luke" Campbell, the man whose booty-shaking madness made the U.S. Supreme Court stand up for free speech, gets as nasty as he wants to be for Miami New Times. This week, Luke declares his greatest rappers alive.

After listening to the new Jay-Z and Kanye West album, Watch the Throne, I was left hungry for more. Ten songs wasn't enough. They are touring together, so I expected them to give their fans more than a quickie. No disrespect to Kanye, but I certainly hope Jay-Z has another solo album in the works. On his own, Jay-Z is the greatest rapper alive.

Hell, Forbes magazine just named Hova the highest-earning rap star. Others on the list include P. Diddy, Kanye, Lil Wayne, and Eminem, another guy I think is right up there with Jay-Z. Eminem raps his ass off on every album he's put out.

In fact, aside from Jay-Z and Eminem, there are very few hip-hop artists who can really claim the title. In the '90s, you knew Tupac and Biggie Smalls were the absolute best in the game. Those guys dropped verse after verse without their buddies rapping on their tracks. Nowadays you have too many hip-hop male performers doing collaborations with guest rappers. A Rick Ross, Lil Wayne, or Drake album will almost always have some other artist showing up to rap every five minutes.

Carol City native Rick Ross has certainly evolved into a helluva lyricist. But he needs to do a song on his own that will stand the test of time like Biggie's "Juicy" or Tupac's "Dear Mama." The same can be said of Lil Wayne and Drake. I'd like to hear those two cats produce an album without a guest appearing on songs.

Don't get me wrong — Lil Wayne's lyrics are out of this world. But you can't just do one verse per song and then call yourself the greatest. That's bullshit. I want to hear an album that is all Weezy, not Lil Wayne & Friends.

Can you imagine if Peter Frampton was constantly doing guest spots with the Steve Miller Band? Or if Jimi Hendrix and Jerry Garcia had done a gazillion duet albums? No, you can't. So why does every rapper today have to drop a line for a DJ Khaled compilation?

If Lil Wayne, Rick Ross, and Drake want to take that title from Jay-Z and Eminem, they need to carry albums on their own.

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Pukesgospelisalie
Pukesgospelisalie

Puke, you and this rag of a paper have really outdone yourselves with this piece! This is Pulitzer stuff here man!!!

Pukie, can you answer my question?? How much do your soupcoolers weigh?

Pukesgospelisalie
Pukesgospelisalie

You obviously didnt try hard enough porch monkey. 50 years ago you would be lynched for what you just posted.Taken over? You really must be joking. Your race is a disgrace to this country. You're depleting our welfare and SS systems by mass producing niglets fathered by who knows whom, and then stealing from our government.Not to mention stealing from everyone and selling crack on street corners and shooting each other(Thats a good thing)

Emilio
Emilio

wayne needs to quit drake needs something in his mouth jayz too old to rap i say kendrick lamar and j.cole the best out there just give them time

THE VOICE
THE VOICE

Pukesgospelisalie. you make some sense. Africans Americans have tried to get back several times. Marcus Garvey had ships and everything else ready to go. White folks were so got dam lazy sitting on their flat asses, they wouldn't let it happen. They wanted the free labor. But imagine idiot, if Blacks would have been sent back a hundred years ago? Today, Blacks would have returned back to America by now, and would have taken over the WhiteWomen, and all you little peckers would have left is the women that raised ost of you suckers: a big fat assed Aunt Jemima. Aint that a bitch!

THE VOICE
THE VOICE

Spittin' poison to Black People. Blacks need a CULTURAL REVOLUTION THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHITE PEOPLE. OLDER BROTHERS NEED TO MOBILIZE AND PURGE OUR RACE OF THIS NASTY LOWDOWN CURSIN' RAP GARBAGE SHIT. THESEYOUNG MEN BECAME MISLEAD BY THE DOPE GAME. THIS RAP SHIT HOLDS OUR YOUNG WOMEN AND ELDERLY BLACK PEOPLE IN BONDAGE. HIPPITY DIPPITYFOOL ASS KID MINDED MORONS HAVE HIJACKED HE BLACKCULTURE, AND HAVE DROWNED DECENT AND FOR REAL BLACK PEOPLE OUT. LIKE MAO TES TUNG ORDERED THE NEXT GENERATION OF YOUNG CHINESE MEN:OFF WITH THEIR GOT DAMN HEADS

Pukesgospelisalie
Pukesgospelisalie

Puke, the unanswered question..... How much do them soupcoolers of yours weigh??

Pukesgospelisalie
Pukesgospelisalie

See what you've gone and done now Puke? You've gotten all these street corner wannabe thugs on the web. Next thing you know the theft rate for PC's goes up 300%.

Who the fuck cares what these tribes chant? Do us all a favor Puke, arrange a cross Atlantic swim for all the Jiggaboos so you can all go back to your homeland. I hear the lions,tigers and Hyennas are starving for some dark meat. Cant swim? No problemo Puke, we can arrange transportation for your tribesmen and women. Even the little niglets get free transport!!

james.george11
james.george11

UNCLE LUKE GO EAT A D!CK, BEFORE DRAKE ROZAY AND WAYNE MAKE A REMIX TO IT'S GOOD AND DISS YO NUN RAPPING ASS, LUKEE AINT NOTHING WITHOUT 2 LIVE CREW SO YOU CANT SPEAK ON COLABS YOU NEVA WENT SOLO B!TCH @SS HAHAHA

BR Sumbich
BR Sumbich

I have but a few words to say to the hip-hoppers out there.Pull up your pants and buy a belt!

Halocrash2
Halocrash2

Jay-Z is the biggest sell out(Illumaniti). How the hell can you call him the greatest rapper alive?

Getyapopcornready
Getyapopcornready

You're an IDIOT.......I don't give a fuck if he was Satan himself........he's still the GREATEST OF ALL TIME! Don't take from me, take it from your boy Phemonem.

Suhailah Stevenson
Suhailah Stevenson

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!! You have said everything I have been saying for years. Nothing against Lil Wayne, Rick Ross & Drake but they just don't have what others like Jay, Kanye & Eminem have. These are artists that can display their talent without the NEED to have backup. Other artists like Common, Mos Def, Talib Kweli...hell all Old School Hip Hop.....don't need to produce album after album full of nothing but featured artists. Take away the features on Wayne's, Drake's & Rick's albums and what's left?! I was born & raised when the REAL Hip Hop was around. When cats were beat-boxing on the corners, when kids were break dancing in the streets and when the music made you feel good. Nothing against where it has evolved to today, I just prefer my classic rhymes. Hats off to Jay, Ye & Em....you keep us grounded.

Miikka Tyynelä
Miikka Tyynelä

I think that "our teacher" is retard. He don't know what means "I woke up, still king" And you better go to listen G.O.A.T. or Get Money-freestyle. There Em makes it clear that he is best. And competing with nobody. 'cos he knows that nobody can fuck with him. Btw you are racist against white people.

Getyapopcornready
Getyapopcornready

I must be, if you're not spelling or writing any better than what you have displayed here today. By the way, I am white Trick......that's why I can't stand "white trash", because of the way they represent my "People."

BIGROB305
BIGROB305

Hip Hop is garbage now days! Being a rapper has the credibility as being a backyard brawler and we all know what happened to Kimbo Slice when he stepped into the UFC, same as rappers performing live compared to a DAVID FOSTER and friends concert. Don't get me wrong I'm a fan of old school Beastie Boys-Schoolly D-Run DMC-Public Enemy-Rakim-EPMD-Boogie Down Productions-Geto Boys, but today's rap crap all sounds the fucking same! The only reason Jay Z-Kanye-Lil Wayne-Wocka Flocka-Rick Ross-Drake and all these other glorified KARAOKE Nursery Rhymers are famous and make good $$$ is no way in hell talent, rather HEAVY LABEL MARKETING and PROMOTION-BET-MTV-MTV JAMS-MTV SOUL-FUSE. With just one RHYME KRS-1 will let these crappers know they are fortunate to be in the place they are now, FUCK these Jegging tight spandex rappers spitting out the same nursery rhyme over and over fuck off die already!

Ken
Ken

SSLP>>>RDMMLP>>>BPTES>>>>BAENCORE>>>>BP2RELAPSE>>>KCRECOVERY>>>>BP3HTS>>>>WTT

Getyapopcornready
Getyapopcornready

From '04 to '09, Phemonem was virtually UNKNOWN, while Jay put out three CLASSICS during that time frame...........3 CLASSICS to 5 years of REHAB......You do the math.

Vincent X
Vincent X

...and Relapse shitted on them three "classic" albums and butt fucked them with Recovery!

Getyapopcornready
Getyapopcornready

Listen at the names of those albums........Relapse and Recovery ..........."my mom smokes crack, my girlfriends a slut, I'mma take some pills and think about suicide."

Getyapopcornready
Getyapopcornready

At 42 be better than 24's........I carry the 4-5 , mastered 48 laws........still wearing my 23's , they can't fuck with ya boy........far as them 16's , I'm 23 of'em all.......PRIME-TIME, riding that 6 deuce......the 9-11 I only subtract the roof......I started in '88 , got warm in '92.........landed in '96, that's the year I came thru.......hit the club, ordered some Grey Goose......switched it to Ciroc, to give Puff stock a boost......I'm headed to Miami to fuck up the Fountain Blue........a case of ACE......MAKE IT 2..................................CHILD PLEASE !

Dj T
Dj T

"Had a dream I was king, I woke up, still kingThis rap game’s nipple is mine for the milking,Till nobody else even fucking feels me, till’ it kills meI swear to god I’ll be the fucking illest in this musicThere is or there ever will be, disagree?Feel free"----------------------Disagree ? Feel free. Em #1

Getyapopcornready
Getyapopcornready

Like he said.......he was FUCKING DREAMING.......WAKE THE FUCK UP and STOP DREAMING.

Ken
Ken

He woke up still king fool !

Cyn
Cyn

@Getyapopcornready-----Quit kissing jay's ass boy. Em is a better MC than Jay.

Flow----Jay

Rhymes and Wordplay---Em

Lyricism----Em(Admitted by the greats like master ace, radman, game, rakim, ll cool J..etc)

Cultural Impact-----Jay

Worldwide impact-----Em

Getyapopcornready
Getyapopcornready

There are no LISTS, only 1......................................................I WILL NOT LOSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dj T
Dj T

Jay is/had never been on Em's level of brilliance. Em at 50% is better than Jay at 101%. Compare their albums:

Great Albums1. SSLP>>>>Reasonable Doubt (Every rapper places SSLP in their top 5 greatest album of all times. Eg http://www.realhiphophead.com/...

2. MMLP>>>>>Blueprint (I believe this is undisputed ?? The MMLP is easily the biggest rap album of the previous decade)

3. EMINEM SHOW>>>>Black Album (Another undisputed debate. TES is considered by many Em fans as his best work)

Weak albums.1 Encore>>>>BP2. ("Encore" does prove one thing: that even half-trying, Eminem is still better than most of the rappers beside him with plenty of personality to spare." RapReview, 2004)

2. Relapse>>>>Kingdom come. (Tyler: The Creator---"I told him Relapse is one of the greatest album of all times to me". Kingdom come was straight up trash, even jay fans can testify)

3. Recovery>>>>BP3 (No debate)

Collabo1. Devils night>>>>Best of both worlds2. D12 World>>>>Unfinished Biz3. Hell: The Sequel>>>>>WTT

Getyapopcornready
Getyapopcornready

First off, Eminem will never see HOV's level of excellency.........reason #1- Consistency, Jay has put out an album every year since '96. #2- Class and TRASH, Eminem is WHITE TRASH, money or no money, he's a fucking idiot for putting his families personal business out for the whole world to see. He's no different than the trash that appears on Jerry Springer for a free trip. #3- Buyers and Sellers, I don't know where the fuck you from Dre but there are those who SELL DRUGS and then there are those who ABUSE DRUGS. This is Em's biggest down fall. A fucking PILL HEAD who can't stay out of REHAB long enough to put a descent album together. That last album, shit his last two or three albums have been STR8 GARBAGE. I don't care what they sold. That fucking SNUGGIE BLANKET did a milli in its first week too, look at'em now. And Dre, you may be black, but I'm from the hood and I put my life on it , there's 4x more copies of Watch the Throne in rotation right now than there are Eminem albums put together and that's a FACT.

Ng
Ng

Your Comment is str8 up irrelevant. No reasonable person will take your comment seriously. Why ? So much silly biases and sentimental bullshit. you are using two different measuring sticks to measure: One giving Jay all benefits of doubt and the other for Em, constantly finding stupid faults. Jay has 11 albums, 2 classics(Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint). Em has 7, 3 classics(SSLP, MMLP, TES). Jay's last 3 albums were str8 up trash as well(WTT, BP3,KC)...What d fuck u saying ?Fine, i understand, you are a hood ganster..lol. Sorry, one sophisticated people listen to Em, not hood freaks without dreams !!! Bye !

Btw, Hell: The Sequel is on rotation right now too....FUCK OFF!

Getyapopcornready
Getyapopcornready

Man you stupid as hell.....every album he has put out is a CLASSIC.....there is not one Eminem cd I can listen to all the way thru. I quote, " my momma smokes crack, my girlfriends a slut, I might commit suicide." This is the topic on everyone of his damn songs.

Getyapopcornready
Getyapopcornready

Lil Wayne nor Eminem will ever be better than Jay no matter what they do or sell, as both have said earlier in their careers that Jay is the best to ever do it. ANALOGY- KOBE will never be better than JORDAN no matter how many rings he wins because he pattons his whole shit after the man. If not for Jordan there would be no Kobe. Jay Z set the bar for all of Hip Hop. Em said it himself.......1st HOV, 2nd Pac, 3rd Big......he didn't even put himself on the fucking list.

Pukesgospelisalie
Pukesgospelisalie

You're so fucking stupid you are replying to your own posts you dumbass nigger.

Neurosub
Neurosub

"Cause I'm at the end of my wits with half this shit that gets in;I got a list here's the order of my list that it's in;It goes, Reggie, Jay-Z, Tupac and Biggie, Andre from Outkast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas and then Me.But in this industry I'm the cause of a lot of envy, so when I’m not put on this list the shit does not offend me.That's why you see me walk around like nothing's bothering me.Even though half you people got a fucking problem with me.You hate it but you know respect you’ve got to give me" - Till I Collapse Lyrics

I'm pretty sure he put himself on that list. And he obviously put HOV 2nd but it's not in any order. He wouldn't put Jay-Z ahead of Pac and Biggie. Come on man. He had to make it rhyme...which he is a genius at.

Getyapopcornready
Getyapopcornready

The name of this track only backs my point even more......Till I Collapse......from too much drug usage......LMAO.

Ng
Ng

"1st HOV, 2nd Pac, 3rd Big......he didn't even put himself on the fucking list."---When did Em say that ???? GTFOH !!!

"Jay Z set the bar for all of Hip Hop"----Which Bar ?Try to be reasonable for once you uneducated black freak, Em is white, Jay is black, Hip hop is a black culture, of course pple will respect Jay more than Em(Irrespective of Skills). GET A GRIP !!!!!

Getyapopcornready
Getyapopcornready

I got a grip you racist MF.....maybe if your boy Em had a grip on life , he could be considered great too. Until then, hes an addict, a junkie, and a manic depressive. GET BACK TO REHAB.

CottrellLookingoodfeelngreat
CottrellLookingoodfeelngreat

Lil wayne, drake, or Rick Ross will never have jay-z or eminem levels of respect. Lil Wayne just repeats the same metaphors and punchlines in a different way, every song, he is not a deep rapper at all. Drake is good, but he is way too feminine too be considered a serious mc, and rick ross was a correctional officer turned drug lord, nuff said. but he does make good music, and has a great voice, and also knows how to make a hit song, so ill give him his props. but he hasnt evolved enough for me to consider him great just yet.

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Arguing about jay and em won't get anyone anywhere. Just Wikipedia both names and see what you get album sale wise.... If that don't help listen to renegade and see you murdered who :)

CottrellLookingoodfeelngreat
CottrellLookingoodfeelngreat

Mc hammer has sold more records than lil wayne does that make him a better artist? And eminem did not murder jay-z on renegade, they both did incredible. It was two different styles. No one claimed eminem killed jay until nas said it. I mean you gonna tell me jays verse on renegade were wack? He wasnt tryna keep up with eminem, because thats not his style, he is and has always been more of a laid back rapper, so people need to cut it out sayin he killed him. Just because he raised his voice and screamed louder on that track does not mean he killed him. and Jay-Z gets way more respect from the hip hop community than eminem. Eminem is only loved and admired by white people who dont know what real hip hop is in the first place.

Wrong !
Wrong !

Eminem us only loved by white people ? Dude, you lost all your credit because of that line !!! Secondly, Em killed jay on renegade. Lastly, Em >>>>>Jay !! btw, am black !

Getyapopcornready
Getyapopcornready

You might be black but your UGLY and STUPID too. Jay moved bowels all over bitch ass Phemonem on RENEGADE and that's a FACT.

Spartan300
Spartan300

Yea Em did murk Hov on Renegade. Everybody knows that.

Dre
Dre

Eminem killed jay z on the song, which is almost a generally accepted fact. And to bring race in it is stupid, I'm black, have listened to hip hop almost all my life and eminem is just a superior rapper then jay z. You may not like what em raps about or something but he is lyrically way better. Jay z has a better body of work but eminem is the better mc.

Joe
Joe

I don't like Jay Z, but shit, I totally agree with you about Eminem!

Getyapopcornready
Getyapopcornready

Yeah the better MC if you like crackheaded moms, slutty girlfriends, and suicide. Me personally, everytime I hear him it makes me depressed. Hell, after I hear 2 or 3 of his songs, I'm ready to commit suicide.

 
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