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selwyn marock 10/24/2009 6:07:00 PM
Lying comes very easy to Pizano,when my family in Dade county were having trouble with 2 amstaffs I had sent them.We were going to send my them to my son in Gainesville,Pizano and Gallagher did not want them to leave as they wished to notch up another 2 murders of innocent animals and argued with the prosecutor,who fortunately was a decent human being and refused to prosecute much to their dismay.These 2 killers enjoy their work immensely and the murdering of defenceless animals is their highlight.These 2 dogs are now safely in Washington.
smarock10@yahoo.com
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Mylenne 06/16/2009 11:37:00 PM
Only "IGNORANT" and stereotypial people believe in this law and I am so proud and glad there are still some like Dahlia out there. I just feel sorry for those of you who support the law cause clearly you have not been lucky enough to understand a dog. There are not bad dogs just bad people
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Nicole 06/01/2009 8:03:00 PM
I was at the dog park a few weeks ago with my American Pit Bull Terrier, Maltese, Doberman Mix and Shepard Mix. When I walked in with my dogs I was looked at like a criminal. It seemed I had brought the devil to the dog park even though he was clearly with 3 other dogs. I had absolutely no problem the entire time that I was there and my dogs were exhausted by the time I left.
There ended up being a dog fight in the park that day and it was between 2 intact male dogs. My APBT was nowhere near the fight and could care less about it. Both dogs ended up having to leave and go to an emergency clinic because their wounds were so bad. After the comotion an older man looked at me and my APBT and said that he was a disgrace to the breed because he didn't jump in the fight.
My "pitbull" is not a disgrace to the breed. He is a great example of how these dogs can and should be trained. He doesn't go on impulse because he was trained and socialized throughout his entire life and will continue to be for the rest of his life.
Ignorance is dangerous. Dogs do not become monsters until people teach them to be that way. We are the monsters who need to be held accountable for the ways in which our animals behave.
I refuse to walk down the street and believe that every black man I see is going to mug or rape me. I refuse to believe that any animal I come in contact with just because of what they look like is going to attack me.
Breed Specific Legislation really isn't the answer. They are going after more than just the American Pit Bull Terrier. There are TONS of other breeds on the list including the Pug!! Do you really think Pugs are all that dangerous?
What's going to happen when they do after your dog?? Who are you guys going to turn to then?
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Fayclis 05/28/2009 10:32:00 AM
Oh boy do those dogsbite people get on these posts quick or what? While "it" disguise's itself by distorting stats, it's real agenda is to promote BSL. It gets "stats" from media reports and never correct the massive amount of misidentified dogs when corrections are made. Were it from the 1920's it could be called the KKK and in the fifties would have stood firmly for McCartyism.
http://rdows.wordpress.com/2008/01/17/exposing-dogsbiteorg/http://btoellner.typepad.com/kcdogblog/2009/02/pressure-mounting-in-toledo.html
The most vicious attack ever on a child in Canada was from a Lab but WE all know that not ALL Labs viciously attack children. As a matter of FACT there has never been a single documented case in all of Canada of a pit bull type dog EVER killing a child here although 37 children have died from dog attacks since 1963.
I wonder how many pit bull type dogs have been in Canada since 1963? I would imagine well over a million?
If public safety IS the real issue (and it should be)then the extensive American Veterinary Medical Association's task force that they did called "A Community Approach to Dog Bite Prevention" IS what politians should be looking at to protect the public NOT knee jerk reactions to make it APPEAR they are doing something. Do they KILL all men of colour because a few are criminals? Because "some" do, should people believe that ALL will? Of course not. To treat responsible dog owners unfairly and like criminals because of a few irresponsible dog owners, is simply silly and against the constitution of the United States.
This kind of injustice will not, in the long run survive, it didn't in the Netherlands, where after 25 years of documented evidence, it was removed. Nor did it last in Italy who added up to 92 banned and/or restricted dogs before ridding itself of the stink of discrimination and profiling JUST this year. THEY have learned that it is about OWNER accountability, strong leash laws and child/parent education. I wonder how many family friendly innocent dogs there has to die for THEM to "get it" also.
This is not the dark ages people. We don't burn witches anymore. Well, maybe a few would IF they could.
I applaud those they will not stand for mass discrimination because of a few!
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Cynthia 05/26/2009 9:52:00 PM
While I agree that the ban is ridiculous and don't believe that any one breed is more dangerous than the next, I am concerned by the lack of responsibility so many pit bull owners have when owning these dogs. The breed has become the "urban" pet of preference and are mutiliated physically and mentally to fit the tough-dog status they are often used for. I know that idiot pet owners exists everywhere but I am torn between lifting the band in Miami-Dade or just leaving it in place, for the animals sake.
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Will 05/26/2009 9:25:00 PM
We passed the law, recall, because a girl got her face ripped off, and I'm not sure in what way repealing the ban addresses the risk.
It's not the pits' fault; they're victims of the general collapse of obedience training among dog owners, not the cause. I have a neighbor who refused to even minimally train their pit. No "sit", no "stay", nothing. First it got aggressive, then it ran away. They replaced it--another pit--and the cycle continues. They don't train this one, either.
Our choice is simple: we train our dogs to live among people, or they dismember our children, and we kill them for it.
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Chuck 05/25/2009 6:36:00 AM
Some people have monkeys for pets, but not gorillas, even though they are both apes.
Some people have cats, but not cougars, even though they are both felines.
No one suggests that all wildcats and gorillas should be killed, but at the same time they are not suitable pets because they are too strong, too dangerous, and cannot be easily controlled should they choose to attack humans.
There are hundreds, if not thousands, of varieties of canines, but people do not have wolves or dingos as pets because they are too dangerous.
While some can and do lovingly raise a pit bull as a pet, and suffer no problems, they are still not like most dogs. Their strength and killing/maiming power makes them much more dangerous than most other breeds. To argue that they are no more dangerous than any other breed is utterly false and illogical. It's simply a matter of size and strength. When most dog breeds attack they are only capable of inflicting so much damage, and can be warded off by an average adult. Pit bulls, even if raised humanely and not trained to fight, remain too dangerous. Their value as companions is overriden by the danger they pose to society. Hence they should not be pets.
This does not mean that the breed should be eliminated. Perhaps they could be kept as police dogs or for guard duties, in the military and otherwise. However the notion that pit bulls are no more or less dangerous than your average pet is unsound, and their presence in communties makes said places less safe.
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selwyn marock 05/24/2009 12:10:00 PM
Any of you that beleive in the stats expounded by Dogbite.org
also obviously beleive in the Tooth-Fairy they are nothing
but creators of selective stats for the purpose of carrying
on a hate campaign against certain breeds.If you should
go onto their site and question any of their bull-sxxt figures
they do not even post your comment.This exercise I have attempted on many occasions.
I am of the opinion that they are somehow connected to Kory
Nelson of Denver notoriety.
Dahlia keep up the great work,Dade County needs you.
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selwyn marock 05/24/2009 11:40:00 AM
a well written article,and to the Lady who is taking Dade-county on,she deserves the Purple heart.Pizzano and Sean Gallagher who now run this Gestapo of dog Genocide enjoy their work hence they will fight tooth and nail to keep BSL
alive.Pizzano who apparently is a qualified vet took over the reins about 4 years ago when the previous head "MISTAKENLY"
confused a Golden Retriever with a Pit-Bull ,he murdered the animal and unfortunately for him the owner carried weight and in a very short spate of time a TV station and the local newspaper were all over Dade county animal control,after all the publicity and the overall bossman I think his name was Bermeister was "SHOCKED" had to stop working on his million dollar deals and FIRE the previous
head and replaced him with Pizzano.(All Poltical).
There has been no improvement whatsoever and I am sure
that Bermeister is still carrying on with his "Million
dollar deals.
This Law BSL is undoubtably one of the most EVIL laws
on the US Law books,it belongs in Mein Kampff.
My hope is that the new President who certainly appears to
be a Decent Human Being bans this EVIL piece of legislation
as I understand he did as a Senator in the state of Illinois.
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Melissa 05/24/2009 4:55:00 AM
In Response to Roberto, I would get a 'flipping' lab or retriever if they had half of the knowledge and intelligence as a pit bull. I need an animal that does not shed massive chunks of hair. The issue is not about finding a different dog, Hell this issue is not about pit bulls, the issue IS that breed discrimination is not acceptable. It is no more acceptable than discrimination against minorities... although there will always be social discrimination, there should not be laws that ban a specific "type" of being that God has created. We were all put here for a purpose, maybe originally some Men made pit bulls purpose to fight, but that is not true for all of them. Should we ban UFC fighters because they have the capabilities to really tear someone up in a brawl? No. We give them a chance to live in society. Their upbringing and public actions are theirs and they will live with what consequences come from their actions. All dogs from birth should be given that same chance and if or when "they" as you ignorant people call "turn", then they should be punished just as a citizen would if he broke the law.
I still cannot grasp the concept of how the people for the ban can only defend themselves through outdated studies and through blogs of people who are obviously unhappy and need something to complain about.
And this is for Mike, I hope my college degree from the University of North Carolina gives me credibility to converse with you through this forum. I read that you socially idealize pit bull owners of a lower class, but I do not think someone of your stature should be one to judge. It is people like YOU, people that judge and discriminate (which is obvious due to your previous comment declaring someone a Moron simply because of his love for an animal), people like you that clearly have no manners and publicize your ignorance as well as coercing ideas and inflicting your negative outlooks to politicians and citizens who are unaware or do not have the proper resources to understand the issues at hand; creating a bad image for these animals to the less educated, ultimately contributing to the fate of a land where there is no equal. People like you who made blacks suffer, and Jews die, and puppies killed for merely being what God made them. I have to say from my moronic perspective, which you so kindly labeled pit bull lovers, that you are lacking the knowledge, experience and education to even have your "words". Common sense is a virtue many do not hold, I believe you to fall into that category. I hope one day, we can all live in a world where we are given a chance to live from birth without being categorized or "socially classed", let alone murdered for what or whom we are, canine or human, but then again that would never happen because people like you will always exist. In fact I have to wonder your exact education and what qualifies you to decide someone is a moron through their choice to love. You are clearly a moron for labeling that person as well as classifying them without solid evidence.
Let me remind you what this country stands for, a land of freedom, a land of hope, where all kinds can have a CHANCE at opportunity. I am just asking for a chance for the dogs as individuals, a chance to live in a home where they can be someones best friend. A chance to walk down the street and play in the park without people pointing and staring. This is not the 1950's, education has come a long way and we should catch up with the times.
If you live in this country you should be appreciative for pit bulls, because in fact, a pit bull was the first dog awarded a purple heart in WWI for saving our soldiers. That would be Sgt. Stubby. A 'flipping' Labrador could have never done that. Pit bulls are so loyal and intelligent and have the ability to understand people and situations that they could indeed save lives.
So why do we want to kill something that has saved lives? We do not ban the human race because some idiots were raised by gangs and drive around shooting people.... we let human live with rights and punishments if they act disorderly. I expect this should be the same for our loving animals, no matter the breed.
So I hope you can sleep knowing that you are supporting death through discrimination and under prejudged circumstance. Little puppies being carried away in masses, all they did was breathe and they were euthanized. I hope all of you who support this ban while "bully breeds" are being taken away from families, watching children loose their best friends, and a couple who cannot have children lose their dog who was like a child to them, I hope you all can live with yourselves. This is pathetic and I hope you one day do not turn on humans again for certain inherent traits that we too hold. Because discrimination exists around the world, and by supporting breed discrimination here in the USA, you are no worse than Hitler or Bin Laden.
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ronda 05/24/2009 4:14:00 AM
I can't tell you how many pit bulls I have worked with in rescue and how maddening it is to know that educated human beings think that these animals are born to kill. Wake up, please !! How many human murderers were just BORN this way?? Someone..yes some human intervention took place and did damage upon these people...just like the dogs who have been mentally and physically abused to do things they wouldn't do on their own. If a BSL law came into my town...my home goes on the market.
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Mike 05/23/2009 5:36:00 AM
This is for Alvarez who is truly not smart enough to know he is stupid. For him to admit his true ignorance here would serve to allow some think he has at least has 7% brain capacity... I do use not the word moron lightly. It is too bad people of your class cannot be educated, but that would make these forums too dangerous.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4199432
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Fio Alvarez 05/23/2009 3:06:00 AM
I think what canes is doing for this breed is amazing. And the people who lack common sense get educated please!!! go to unitedagainstbsl.org You should punish the deed not the breed!! and people like moses and mike im sure you wouldn't know the difference in understanding an animal nor the shit that comes out of your mouth.... I am a proud pitbull owner myself 3 of them and they are the most loyal ,smart and friendliest dogs ever. Im sure its people like you why any dog would ever turn on them.Im human and id want to turn on you too. But i wont i just pity your lack of knowledge
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Fio Alvarez 05/23/2009 3:06:00 AM
I think what canes is doing for this breed is amazing. And the people who lack common sense get educated please!!! go to unitedagainstbsl.org You should punish the deed not the breed!! and people like moses and mike im sure you wouldn't know the difference in understanding an animal nor the shit that comes out of your mouth.... I am a proud pitbull owner myself 3 of them and they are the most loyal ,smart and friendliest dogs ever. Im sure its people like you why any dog would ever turn on them.Im human and id want to turn on you too. But i wont i just pity your lack of knowledge
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Roberto 05/22/2009 11:19:00 PM
Place Canes in jail if she is caught with illegal pit bulls. Pit Bull lovers and their twisting of stats are a danger to society, and these type of people should be treated as a danger...As the previous poster mentioned: Stop trying to defend an animal that was bred to be able to bait a bull.....no more logic from those who "love" pit bulls..get a flipping lab or retriever for goodness sake.
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Chuck 05/22/2009 11:01:00 PM
If a few kids have to be mauled or killed so I can keep my pit bull than so be it. I mean it's not like I have a thousand other breeds to choose from do I?
Adam Goldfarb of the Humane Society makes a lot of great points in defense of pit bulls, even when he is completely wrong.
Adam contends that "the laws are expensive and almost impossible to enforce."
A great point. Since when do we pass/enforce laws that are expensive? I for one say that any law that is expensive should not be passed, and such crimes and violations tolerated.
"We don't believe any one breed of dog is inherently more dangerous than any other breed."
Exactly. I mean, sure, that may not be true. And I'm a little upset with that pit bull that just this very week killed a smaller dog and attacked that woman. Talk about bad timing! That pit bull needs to get with the program and not ruin it for the rest of us.
I know greyhounds are bred for speed, and thus are fast, but just because pit bulls are bred to bait bulls and fight to the death, that doesn't mean that they are stronger and more vicious and dangerous than other dogs.
Do you really think a pit bull is more dangerous than a retriever, a daschund, a collie etc.? Just because it is? Why would you think that? Just because it's true?
Those other, less vicious, less capable of killing breeds just have better public relations departments.
I know when I first heard about an animal that was bred to bait bulls and is a fighter capable of killing kids and inflicting horrible wounds, I said, "wow, I want to have that as a pet."
Luckily enough it happens to be a pit bull, which is a dog, and so I CAN have it as a pet.
Maybe people who don't like being attacked or having their kids mauled should move to some pit bull free paradise, since they are too good to live with dogs bred to fight bulls. Why not try living in the sea? They would probably want to ban sharks too I bet.
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Mike 05/22/2009 6:39:00 PM
http://cbs4.com/local/Pit.Bull.Attack.2.1016592.html
Put the owner in jail, and you silly people who love Pit Bulls bail him out.
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Mack 05/22/2009 5:19:00 AM
[quote]Pit Bulls and Rottweilers are by far the most dangerous.....[/quote]
If you`re going to cite old studies Tim,you have to try and keep up to date.
From the CDC(about their own Study)
http://www.cdc.gov/HomeandRecreationalSafety/Dog-Bites/dogbite-factsheet.html
[quote]A CDC study on fatal dog bites lists the breeds involved in fatal attacks over 20 years (Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998). It does not identify specific breeds that are most likely to bite or kill, and thus is not appropriate for policy-making decisions related to the topic. Each year, 4.7 million Americans are bitten by dogs. These bites result in approximately 16 fatalities; about 0.0002 percent of the total number of people bitten.
These relatively few fatalities offer the only available information about breeds involved in dog bites.
There is currently no accurate way to identify the number of dogs of a particular breed, and consequently no measure to determine which breeds are more likely to bite or kill....[/quote]
See both CDC and AVMA Statements re the Study you`ve cited at this link
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-bites/dog-bite-studies/
From the CDC Statement
[quote]....
THERE IS NO SCIENTIFICALLY VALID EVIDENCE AND NO REASONABLE
ARGUMENT TO SUPPORT BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION.
�If anyone says one dog is more likely to kill - unless
there's a study out there that I haven't seen - that's not
based on scientific data."
Julie Gilchrist/MD, Centers for Disease Control
Co-Author, JAVMA Special Report.....[/quote]
From the AVMA Statement
[quote]....In contrast to what has been reported in the news media, the data contained
within this report CANNOT be used to infer any breed-specific risk for dog
bite fatalities (e.g., neither pit bull-type dogs nor Rottweilers can be said to be
more �dangerous� than any other breed based on the contents of this report). To
obtain such risk information it would be necessary to know the numbers of each
breed currently residing in the United States. Such information is not available.....[/quote]
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Tim 05/22/2009 4:59:00 AM
Pit Bulls and Rottweilers are by far the most dangerous. Read this government site
I do not want them killed either, they are the pet version version of an H2 vehicle which shows a massive lack elsewhere:
http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=pit+bull+fatalities&fr=yfp-t-501&u=www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf&w=%22pit+bulls%22+%22pit+bull%22+pitbull+fatalities+fatality&d=LDZm20xIS0L6&icp=1&.intl=us
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Tourists 05/22/2009 2:17:00 AM
We`ll be keeping our Tourist dollars out of the State of Florida until this ends.
We see by the links provided that BSL is prohibited in the State with a few exceptions....Miami-Dade being one of them.
Sorry Florida but we can`t support a State that allows this to continue.
Seems like the State could intervene in this and stop it.
If you don`t like our dogs,guess you don`t like our money either.
Good luck with the Challenge.
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Curious George 05/22/2009 1:27:00 AM
Miami-Dade,it`s pretty obvious looking at some of the links posted here that this isn`t about Public Safety and you`re simply trying to exact revenge for the high profile attack mentioned in this story.
How many more innocent dogs(and owners) must pay the price...5,000..10,000....more?
And it begs the question...why aren`t you exacting revenge on all the dogs belonging to the other Breeds(and owners) involved in the Florida fatalities?
Shouldn`t they pay the price for what another owner allowed their dog to do?
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Melissa 05/21/2009 11:35:00 PM
I am a Pit Bull owner and PROUD! These are the most intelligent, loyal, loving, and sensitive of many breeds. I would not own any other kind of dog. I think ignorance should be banned, not pit bulls! Any dog that is starved and trained to fight, WILL... and little dogs bite and growl without the training. Pit bulls are just so loyal to their masters and intelligent that if they are taught something they follow through. Which is great because I have taught my dog to be friendly and loving, fortunately he already was!!! The ignorant, unintelligent people who think otherwise are horrible, immoral, uncompassionate people who never spent time around anything short of a chihuahua (which i might add are ferocious and SHOULD be banned). If we ban one breed, what breed is next. It is only a matter of time. We live in the USA! A land of mixture and freedom where we can all live as ONE!!!.. except Pit bulls. That sounds logical. I hope I offended everyone who is for this Ban and I hope you one day get the opportunity to meet such a sweet dog like mine so you can see how ignorant you have been taught to behave, but you will not... because they are all in hiding, living like Anne Frank, victims of a pit bull holocaust in Miami-Dade.
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Kitzie 05/21/2009 11:17:00 PM
Thank you Canes!!!Do these officials ever think that its not the breed, but the actual owners that make certain animals- for lack of a better word, pissed. Hey, if I was chained up all day, not given food and water and just not being loved, I would proably go crazy too!
I have a pit bull, which is my baby, and I can never imagine having another dog. I do fear having stupid law enforcers come up to me and try to take him away. Luckily, I have papers that say he is not a pit.....
And what kind of test is: his eyes are far apart? Get real.
Start concerning yourself about the real crimes in Miami Dade and neighborhoods were our children are becoming lost!
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Kara Weber 05/21/2009 10:23:00 PM
Bad dogs are created by bad owners. If there wasn't a lame, stupidly macho, gangster-obsessed subculture of dog owners who take pit bull puppies, throw chains and weights around their necks in order to "bulk them up", starve them to make them more aggressive, force them to fight, and then chain them in yards as "guard dogs", neglecting them and denying them of what all dogs innately want � love and companionship � this wouldn't be an issue. Poor pit bulls are victims of their bad reputation which is completely manufactured by man. The dog who attacked Melissa Moreira was probably abused, neglected, and desperate and was made into a monster by his owner who had violently romanticized notions of what pit bulls are supposed to be like. Go ahead and give this same treatment to a golden retriever and see how many people it attacks.
The fact that Miami-Dade county has killed 1,800 pit bulls under Pizano is appalling and disgusting.
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Pete 05/21/2009 9:52:00 PM
Who would you like held responsible for attacks by non pit type dogs?
Owners?
Now there`s a good idea.
Florida Info
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/in-your-state/florida/
[quote]Over the past 44 years (1965-present), there have been 35 fatal dog attacks in Florida, an average of one (1) fatality every 1 to 2 years.
At least eleven (11) different breeds/types* of dogs have been identified in these incidents...[/quote]
And no they don`t cause injuries unlike other dogs in case you`re wondering.
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-bites/types-of-dog-bites/dog-bites-injuries/
[quote]No breed or type of dog has a particular method of attack or inflicts an exclusive type of injury.
Claims that one breed of dog inflicts injuries unlike other breeds have no merit.[/quote]
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Mike 05/21/2009 8:53:00 PM
Make sure Canes is held responsible for any future attack by a Pit Bull...assuming the law is repealed
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Clay 05/21/2009 11:52:00 AM
Re the site dogsbite
"When a quest for vengeance becomes dangerous"
http://btoellner.typepad.com/kcdogblog/2008/09/dogsbiteorg----when-a-quest-for-vengeance-becomes-dangerous.html
Read the comment left by Canine Fatality Investigator Jim Crosby
A snippet of the comment(Read the entire comment at blog)
[quote]...The author is not remotely interested in accuracy-I have sent several comments correcting 'facts' from having been on scene-and they never appear.... Dogbites is nothing more than a hate fueled site with a clear agenda to warp the truth and destroy a breed of dog based on the authors personal feelings.[/quote]
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Tina 05/21/2009 11:30:00 AM
There is big money in pit bulls, and the people opposing regulation want to protect INCOME. They could care less about public safety
Look at http://www.dogsbite.org to see how greedy and manipulative these breeders and fighters are. They hire lobbyists to make up lies to cover up the problems pit bulls have.
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John 05/21/2009 10:14:00 AM
I think it's communism to tell someone what kind of dog they can own. I hope the ban is lifted.
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moses 05/21/2009 4:15:00 AM
Canes needs to get a real job..
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Raymond 05/21/2009 4:14:00 AM
I hope they don't try to overturn the ban.