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Priscilla 10/23/2010 7:17:00 AM
I know there is discrimination among whites, hispanics and blacks, and most blacks claim they are "always" discriminated, but sometimes it is the other way around! Sometimes "racism" is frequently used by blacks or hispanics when it works in their favor, or just an excuse, but has anyone experienced discrimination DONE BY BLACKS?? (especially by directors) Well, I am.
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svend 07/07/2009 2:52:00 AM
That pic isn't of a noose but a hitch made out of a rope.
But hey, if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. Doesn't it?
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JS 07/06/2009 6:27:00 AM
Does not surprise me. In 2008, my sister filed a sexual harassment charge. Barry sided with her at first, but after a series of retaliation attacks, they changed sides and kicked her out of the program. This "Christian" institution cares only for their reputation and nothing more.
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Anonymous 07/06/2009 4:05:00 AM
I got terminated from the graduate school of social work at Barry University after filing a sexual harassment complaint at my internship. In fact, the school was supportive before I filed and then after I filed did nothing but keep me from graduating with my MSW. The administration of Barry University cares nothing about politics and money, even though they claim to be a school devoted to and based on Christian principles.
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anonymous 06/06/2009 5:29:00 PM
Wow, New Times. You guys are the most sensationalist rag in the country. Keep up the stellar work firing that proverbial gun in search of smoke.
Best,
Former reporter turned Barry student who thinks the Miami New Times nukes the concept of objective journalism
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John A 06/05/2009 9:25:00 AM
I think this was an interesting, well-written article. I am a former employee of Barry University and fondly remember the hard work of the gentleman who was terminated. I am saddened to hear about this injustice and hope that he wins his case. However, as a former employee of color, I must say that I never experienced some of the horrible things that others endured. Additionally, I want to correct a part of the article regarding no blacks being heads of departments. If you look within the Student Affairs Division, you will find that there have been a number of Department Directors.
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Natalie O'Neill 06/01/2009 8:14:00 PM
Hi All,
Anyone interested in seeing the photo Oswald Jones took of the noose can view it here:
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2009/06/the_barry_university_debate_co.php
Thanks,
Natalie O'Neill
Staff Writer
Miami New Times
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Democrat001 05/30/2009 8:17:00 PM
Natalie:
1. I don't care what photo you saw, A bunch of us actually saw what that dude classified as a "noose" and there is no possible way to characterize a hitch connected to a cart as a noose!!!! Not one person who saw it (whether black, white or latin) thought it even came close to looking like a "noose".
2. The school started around 1940. Your implication is that there is current racial tension, but you base it on very old data and disgruntled former employees. Unlike you, I actually go to school here and the diversity is excellent and I have not seen any racial tension between students or employees.
3. Where are the EOB numbers for Miami? Why not include them. Also what about EEOC complaints, federal law cases and state law cases, were they part of your comparison? You are intentionally not showing the complete picture -- just the slanted part that works for your story. Also you used one school? From my research class I know that this is clearly not a repesentative sample to make such a comparision.
4. Point taken.
5. There is no way you cannot argue that you painted a picture in Fernandez to make it seem negative toward Barry -- when it is not. I know a lot of students and employees who were here when this happened. These employees were terminated because of an appearance of racial bias (who knows if they were bias or not, only those involved would know that). But because of the appearance of racial bias terminating them was probably the right thing to do, but you made it seem as if Barry did something wrong.
6. Law case or EOB complaint, whatever!! You missed the point. As a reporter trying to report the facts you didn't even get the fact correct that she was a student not an employee (big difference). Plus you don't even know the result of that girl's complaint or what happened, so why even talk about it?
7. Your response is just silly. Who compares the number of students to black professors???? Your statisical analysis makes no sense - your approach just furthered your story angle. Even the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education focused on what the focus should be on. Would you argue that Howard is underpresented by black faculty because it is at 50% when the student black population is probably higher than 80%. Do you even know the percentage of black students at Barry? The fact is that you stating that Barry's number of black faculty is 15% higher than the national average did not work for your story so you found another angle that worked for your story.
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Natalie O'Neill 05/28/2009 6:46:00 PM
Dear Democrat001,
To respond briefly:
1)I have seen a photograph of the noose. If you�re interested in viewing it, I�d be happy to send it to you.
2)In reviewing a history of racial tension, we began with the school�s inception and worked our way today.
3)EOB complaints are compared to University of Miami.
4)Barry founders not all nuns from Michigan. They are: Mother Gerald Barry of the Dominican Sisters of Adrian, Michigan; Monsignor William Barry of St. Patrick's Church in Miami Beach; and Bishop Patrick Barry of St. Augustine. They are all Irish Catholic. (All Irish Catholic.)
5)The article does state the employees you reference in the Fernandez case were terminated.
6)The Edda Pierre-Paul complaint is not a law case. It�s a complaint filed with the Miami-Dade EOB. As noted in the article, we made several public records requests to view details of the case over a three week period.
7)The number of black professors is not compared to the national college average. Rather, it is compared to the number of black students at the school.
Best,
Natalie O�Neill
Staff Writer
Miami New Times
Natalie.O�Neill@miaminewtimes.com
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Natalie O'Neill 05/28/2009 6:40:00 PM
Dear Democrat001,
Thanks for your thoughts. To respond briefly:
1)I have seen a photograph of the noose. If you�re interested in viewing it, I�d be happy to send it to you.
2)In reviewing a history of racial tension, we began with the school�s inception and worked our way to today.
3)Barry's EOB complaints are compared to the University of Miami.
4)Barry founders are not all nuns from Michigan, as you state. They are: Mother Gerald Barry of the Dominican Sisters of Adrian, Michigan; Monsignor William Barry of St. Patrick's Church in Miami Beach; and Bishop Patrick Barry of St. Augustine. (All Irish Catholic.)
5)The article does note the employees you reference in the Fernandez case were terminated.
6)The Edda Pierre-Paul complaint is not a law case. It was filed with the Miami-Dade EOB. As noted in the article, we made several public records requests to view details of the case over a three-week period, but the EOB did not provide it by deadline.
7)The number of black professors is not compared to the national college average. Rather, it is compared to the number of black students at the school.
Best,
Natalie O�Neill
Staff Writer
Miami New Times
Natalie.O�Neill@miaminewtimes.com
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Democrat001 05/27/2009 5:51:00 PM
As a current graduate student at Barry University, as well as someone who had also worked there, Natalie O'Neill's article typifies the trashy, unsubstantiated sensationalism one expects from the New Times. She seemingly based her entire article on unsupported allegations from former disgruntled employees or individuals that don�t know anything about the facts.
If Ms. O�Neill actually saw the �noose� that the local police department and Barry�s Public Safety saw, she would be embarrassed that she gave any credence to those allegations. When this first came out, I was among a group of students and employees who ran over and saw the �noose�. This �noose� was simply a rope attached to a cart that was used to connect the cart to a truck hitch in order to move the equipment!! And it was nothing new! This rope had apparently been in Mr. Jones� work area--attached to that piece of equipment!!--since he started working at Barry. The end of the rope could barely fit over a truck hitch, never mind being confused with a �noose.
To support her article, Ms. O�Neill relied on law cases that are from 7-15 years ago! Did she not notice that almost all were dismissed for having no merit??? How do these old cases relate to the current situation at Barry??????
And then, with no basis, she states that �the number of complaints against Barry in federal court and with the EOB is disproportionately high�. Really?? Based on what standard? Where is the comparative data? I�m certainly learning how to research in my major � was Ms. O�Neill not taught research as a journalism major (or did she skip that class)?? How many claims has Miami, FIU, FAU, Nova, Broward had? Only by knowing how many cases were filed against other schools can one possibly know if Barry�s number of complaints is �disproportionately high�!! Plus, if many complaints were dismissed for having no merit, does that mean anything? Maybe instead of Barry has �disproportionately high number of discrimination claims� one can conclude that Barry has a disproportionately high number of frivolous claims made against it. Or did that not make for a good story Ms. O�Neill??
Ms. O�Neill even gets the basic fact of who founded Barry incorrect; how simple is that fact to research and correctly report? She states that Barry was founded by a �trio of Irish-Catholic clergy members�. Are you kidding me? Barry was founded by nuns based out of Adrian, Michigan! I�m not even a so-called reporter as Ms. O�Neill supposedly is and I found this in less than 2 minutes!! http://www.barry.edu/aboutbarry/History.htm!
Ms. O�Neill mentioned a Fernandez case. A friend of mine at Miami law School sent me a copy of the lawsuit complaint filed with the judge. If Ms. O�Neill was focused on balanced reporting instead of a juicy story she would have actually done her research and read that those employees (one of whom I knew of!) were terminated by Barry for doctoring the pictures, which is what one would hope would happen when an employer determines that one of its employees did something that at least appeared to be improperly based on race!! If Barry had ignored the actions of its employees and refused to fire them, then I could understand Ms. O�Neill�s point for using this case as an example. Instead, she somehow twisted Barry�s PROPER reaction to what happened into something improper!!
She then cites another old law case -- the Edda Pierre-Paul law case. She refers to this without even knowing what the case was about or if it was even relevant to her article. A friend of mine went to school at Barry (which was awhile ago) with the Pierre-Paul mentioned in the article. In Ms. O�Neill�s zeal to craft some type of earth shattering story, she �forgot� to check her facts once more! Pierre-Paul was not an �employee� at Barry � she was a student in one of Barry�s medical programs!! How can one get the basic fact that she was a student wrong?
Finally, Ms. O�Neill�s use of statistics is embarrassing to say the least. (I spent only 15 minutes online, and was able to verify what Ms. O�Neill said was misleading)! If you go to http://www.jbhe.com/news_views/62_blackfaculty.html anyone can see that, according to Ms. O�Neill�s numbers, Barry has MORE black faculty (6%) than what the national average of black faculty is (5.4%)!!! And yet she makes it seem that Barry�s numbers are ridiculously low, when in FACT, Barry is above the national average!
To me it seems just plain wrong for a reporter to blatantly mislead the public (about such a serious issue) and forget about what is true or not so she can write a flashy story. I�ve been attending Barry for almost two years now, and it is a good diverse school with good hearted people focusing on trying to encourage students of all origins and color to make a difference in the world, including a student like me who is the first in his family to even go to college. Just based on what 30 minutes of research revealed about the fact checking in this story it seems to me that Barry should have some type of lawsuit against Ms. O�Neill for negligence, defamation or something. This is just not right. Ms. O�Neill should do what I�m doing, and go back to school � learn to research and report the facts instead of creating fairytales.
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Julio 05/13/2009 2:02:00 AM
Hello to all readers out there:
I remember an American movie I was watching on TV on a Sunday afternoon. The whole drama unfold at a medium-sized College. An intelligent black young man had been offered a scholarship so he could become a professional and improve his standard of living as well as the one of his family.
Already at the University, this African-American student went on to defend a friend of his, because of a developing fight situation between his friend and two students. Like one of the involved was a friend of the black student he went to help his friend.
The whole thing didn't developed into a full fight but the black young man attracted a lot of criticism from other students, instead of stopping the fight he got into it.
The black student with the scholarship was stronly critized by a few white students. Then he defended himself by saying that he was in the spot because he was black.
Suddenly one white student told him,that this University where he was studying at, will never be critical of him by his skin color but because of his behavior.
The two students were called to the office of the school Director. The African-american told his story, that a friend of him was in trouble with two others and that he went to help his friend, that's the way things are done where I am coming from (Bronx).
Then the Director said that he cannot behave at this place the way he did at his neighborhood. These are two different worlds so he must learn from the experience and make sure that his behavior is the most important thing, not the color of his skin.
Sincerely,
Julio Glez Jr.
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Jerome 05/13/2009 1:54:00 AM
I'm glad you guys ran this story. I think Barry needs to give everybody an equal opportunity to succeed. However I would like to say one thing. I hate any discrimination, however I think sterotyping is a part of living in a racially diverse community. Everybody doesn't have a racially conscious attitude toward their peers. Everybody makes jokes about race. White people talk about everybody including themselves, black people and hispanics do the same. What others say or think about us should be of now consequence, after all we do live in America what hapened to freedom of speech and expression. If they think I'm a monkey so be it. As long as this monkey has an opportunity to show what he knows. I don't try to control anybodies speech because I won't let anybody control mines. Simply because you stop someone from saying something doesn't mean that you can stop them from thinking it. I rather know what others think about me up front.
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Winston P 05/12/2009 8:20:00 PM
Mr. Jones, I must laud you on the scholastic and professional accomplishments you have made in the face of such cruel adversity. I am a Jamaican father of three children, two of whom are boys, and I have to shield them from the pernicious influence of the American entertainment and news media. I have long abhorred the practice of the Hollywood movie industry in subliminally perpetuating negative cliches and stereotypes about blacks.
If you observe the plots of 97% of American movies or television dramas in which black and white actors are juxtaposed, the most glorious protagonost roles are played by white males, while blacks playing support cast are given the roles of bumbling buffoons needing the guidance of the white male hero, or they are given the roles of the villain(s) in the plot.
I have deliberately pushed my sons to be overtly competitive against their white male classmates at school, and to attain higher grade scores than them. Unfortunately, at times it may cost my sons any chances of becoming popular at school, but a message must be sent to the bigotted author of that contraversal book published during the 1990s about the "Bell Curve".
I have also imbued chivalry into my sons. I have instructed them to never be misogynistic and to treat the young ladies in their lives like precious godesses.
Thus I have successfully taught my sons to be defiant of every negative portrayal of black males which America keeps aloft.
Peace be with you, Mr. Jones, and lots of success in all your future career endeavors.
A fellow Jamaican.
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Junior Graham 05/12/2009 7:49:00 AM
In 2006 a lady friend of mine, an erstwhile student of Miami Dade College,submitted an application to Barry University's School of Nursing with the intent of pursuing her Bachelor of Science in Nursing (BSN) degree. She had accrued in excess of 60 applicabe transfer credits and her grades were a mix of A'S and B's. She had one repeat course, namely Anatomy and Physiology; in her first attempt in the course she came out with a D, but she repeated the course in the ensuing term garnering an A. She gathered all her transcripts, filled out all the mandatory forms for admission, security clearance etc. and submitted them all to the Dean of the School of Nursing.
A few weeks later my lady friend received a response letter from Barry University declaring that her application had been denied because her transcript contained a repeat course, the aforementioned Anatomy and Physiology. She submitted many subsequent letters pleading for the Dean to admit her into the program inspite of her purported entry requirement deficit.
She met a number of then current Barry Nursing students and inquired of them as to whether they had perfect transcripts or academic records prior to their admission in the program. She was shocked to learn that most of these students, all Caucasian, had once failed and ultimately repeated many requisite entry courses such as college algebra, chemistry and Gordon Rule courses such as English Composition 1 and 2.
Sensing the existence of institutional racism at Barry University, she enrolled at another university where she is now only a few classes shy of procuring her BSN.
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Natalie O'Neill 05/12/2009 2:41:00 AM
Hi Meghan,
You make a good point. While the article doesn�t say you were a student during the �Bob Dole scandal,� it does imply your journalism was about that incident. Let�s set the record straight: Meghan�s journalism was about racism on campus after the protests. When she talks about the problem, she's speaking of racial tension in general terms.
Best,
Natalie O�Neill
Miami New Times
305-571-7544
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Marcia Evans 05/12/2009 2:09:00 AM
I think Mr. jones is very courageous for fighting this injustice and racism to the end. I pray that God would give him the strength he needs to perserve and make an example out of Barry University.
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jose 05/11/2009 1:11:00 PM
SDM, What are you talking about. This is NOT Obama's Politics. These are real issues that are going on at Barry University as we speak. Seems like you are part of the problem and not the solution. Have a Happy Mothers Day.
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jose 05/11/2009 1:11:00 PM
SDM, What are you talking about. This is NOT Obama's Politics. These are real issues that are going on at Barry University as we speak. Seems like you are part of the problem and not the solution. Have a Happy Mothers Day.
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Marlon 05/11/2009 1:03:00 PM
Your comment sounded very Political. this is not about Obama. The fact is from reading these articles It looks like Racism existed at Barry University. I don't care who you voted for, whomever you vote for is your business. Quit talking politics and let face reality that racism existed at Barry University. Let us come together and get RID of this EVIL.
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SDM 05/11/2009 12:44:00 AM
Let's quit the nonsense. A "noose" is NOT a hate crime. This guy has a quite an imagination... he needs to grow up.
In every instance where a "noose" has been found in places it has been shown to be planted by race activists.
I have been discriminated against MANY times in SoFla.
I AM THE MINORITY HERE: WHITE, NON-HISPANIC, non-Jewish,, non-Catholic, non-liberal, non-Democrat party.
I have been racially harassed by BLACKS in front of my own home and in my workplace the night Obama was elected. NO I did NOT vote for him because he is just another corrupt Chicago politician. But most people who voted FOR him did so for racially motivated reasons.
If you have light skin you have to be bi-lingual to get most jobs here in So Fla, but you don't have to speak English to get a job though!
As this article states most of these bogus lawsuits against Barry have been DROPPED. That doesn't mean that Barry is powerful; it means that the lawsuits were of no merit.
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Meghan Walles 05/10/2009 11:09:00 PM
Funny story, I'm quoted in this article saying I was a journalist at the time of the Senator Bob Dole scandal at the school when I wasn't even a student there at the time. I wrote an article that I was inquired about my Sophmore year at school which was Fall 2005 Spring 2006. I don't mind being interviewed about subjects of this sort of nature because they are issues that need to be raised and discussed about, yet please quote me in the appropriate nature, i.e. time wise, opposed to being an emphasis on your point.
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Eddie Thomas 05/10/2009 6:50:00 PM
Well researched and written document.
The trend is very clear from the article........it goes on unabated!
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Stephanie 05/10/2009 5:35:00 AM
What is described here involves too many people to doubt. This situation warrants a MAJOR investigation by the EEOC and some of these survivors of the inexcusable racist hatred ought to bring a class-action lawsuit. There are civil rights attorneys in town who will work on contingency. The school's failure to act and retaliatory firing alone are enough, plus all the original complaints. There are various time frames involved but someone familiar with the law here should be able to help-a lot.
And, I surely hope that our entire community will show Barry this is intolerable behavior we will not accept.
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Rose R. 05/10/2009 12:28:00 AM
I worked at Barry university for over ten years. The treatment of minorities was unfare and unjustified. Management assigns all the work to minorities but in turn promotes relatives, friends, etc. (all whites). Racism and Nepotism is a normal practice at Barry University.
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Elizabeth 05/09/2009 3:28:00 AM
It has become known; amongst black and Hispanic college students at least,and not all even attending the university that Barry has a problem with racism. I actually heard about this problem from peers in social situations that Barry was known for Faculty being harder on its minority students than white students. I have also heard FIU has this problem as well.
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Arlene Francis 05/09/2009 1:50:00 AM
I am greatly disturbed by the alleged racial distrubances written in the New Times.
I will be following this story closely.
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Linda Meri 05/08/2009 9:15:00 PM
The people who are in charge of this university know what's going on, it's like an unspoken word, and if you get caught you on your own. But I can't understand why African Americans spend there money where they are not wanted, but then again I do. If more African Americans support their own or those that have graduated from a black historial college or university, they would be in better shape. This is my opinion.
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Jonathan 05/08/2009 4:39:00 PM
I am so glad I read this article!
I had no clue about Barry being this blatant and open about their practices. This is exteremely worse than UM or FIU. Comparing all three schools should be interesting.
Well as far as applying at Barry for a Masters they can forget it. This is very deplorable situation and they should be made an example of.
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Jean 05/08/2009 4:00:00 AM
I am glad I did not apply there. Racism in the South is still alive even if people try to hide it. I invited anyone to drive through Overtown. Downtown Miami is being rebuild and Overtown looks rundown.
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S.J. 05/08/2009 1:55:00 AM
I am not suprised whatsoever. In my years at Barry University 2001-2005, I have seen alot of discrimination and biasness to both students, faculty, and staff. I was part of the protest in 2003 (Checks accepted... Voices Denied), where we banded as a group to stand up for fellow minorities. It definitely is that Barry U needs to work on. They do a pretty good job of putting us in the booklets and ads as being a diverse campus which it is, but that is as far as the diversity spreads. Many qualified minorities hardly ever rise within the school administration. This is a pretty evident issue where if you go and take a look for yourself it is plain as day.
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lindel 05/08/2009 1:17:00 AM
Mr Jones this is a very positive move to get some justice from "INJUSTICE. Maybe not in our time, but hopefully in the near future. I've worked at Barry University as a Field Supervisor in Public Safety from December 2007- September 2008 and was fired for exposing the Unethical and Racial behavior of the Executive Director of Public Safety. He was asked to resign along with the cordinator. During my nine months it was very humilating to most of the security officers. however they were afraid to speak out for the fear of loosing their job. However I spoke out and was fired. I can say for sure that I know one thing exist at Barry University and that is Racism.
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Linda 05/08/2009 12:30:00 AM
SHAME on Barry University.
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Andrew Varciana 05/07/2009 11:30:00 PM
I am proud of Mr. Jones academic achievements. But I am extremely proud of his efforts in the fight against racism and injustice. It is disturbing. Oswald we know a little of what you endured from this article. We cannot imagine the level of stress and challenges that you encounter there. Mr. Jones persevered over 10 years of injustice at that institution. Let us support him in his fight against this monster that segregates society. May God give him the courage to over come. His efforts will be in vain without our support. Let us spread the word by forwarding this article to every one we know on the internet.
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Tamara 05/07/2009 10:08:00 PM
I was a student at Barry from 200-2004. During this time I personally saw 3 acts of racial discrimination against STUDENTS by other students. As well as difference in treatment of STAFF by other staff. I took part in silent protests (of which the organizers were threatened for their participation and role in organizing these events). There were incidents of racial slurs the N-word was used against a Trinidadian student and his mother by a roommate; a friend of mine was kicked off of campus and not allowed to eat in the cafeteria or go to his dorms (all based on criminal charges that were racially stemmed and dismissed in court); and I also had a friend that was forced to step down from a position working with the school because she supported the rights of a fellow student who was racially discriminated against. I moved from the south florida campus and went to a satellite campus in central florida to escape the racial issues of the Miami Shores campus. I'm glad that people are finally stepping up, hopefully next there will be NATIONAL ATTENTION...
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LENA 05/07/2009 8:47:00 AM
As a former student at Barry University, this story is disturbing. I had a student that went to Barry that protested against the unfair treatment at Barry University and she was constantly interrogated. My professors sometimes made odd comments that I wasn't sure were racial, or just sarcasm. I did have a good experience and relationship with my classmates and most of my professors. Although there did not seem to be any racial tension between us. I was often curious about the diversity of the students opposed to the diversity of our Faculty. I did not know all of this was going on, but after one of the student's protests lead to death threats, I realized there's more to this University than meets the eye.