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So you gave the briefcase to Evens?
Then you left?
That night did you have a conversation with Evens?
Yeah. Later on that night, me -- I think me and Evens went to the movie that same night. We went to the movies on South Beach and that's when, you know, we was talking and, you know, we talking about the investment and all that there, you know.
Did he tell you that he gave money to Art?
Yes, he did, yeah.
Again, not to put words in your mouth, but to paraphrase what he told you, did he tell you that it was given to Art for construction jobs?
Yes, sir, as investment, you know, because he was telling me that. You know, like I say, I respected Evens, right, because, you know, the life I was living. I was actually trying to get out that life and I thought, you know, this will be a way right here, you know, and that's why anytime he asked me for anything, I knew he was rich once before, you know, and, you know, I wanted to back out the life I was living in by just invest my money that I was doing wrong in.
So at that point, basically, you're giving money to Evens to give to Art for construction jobs and you didn't know who Art was, is that right?
So if I asked you kind of a direct question of did you know that he was paying him a bribe, you would have to say at that time no?
No, no, I didn't.
Okay. Now, there was a second time that Evens calls you and asks for money for Art, is that correct?
Now, at that point you know, I mean there was no doubt in your mind that Evens gave money to Art for construction work, is that right?
Now tell me about that second time when Evens calls and asks you to bring some money by; was that in 2001, also?
In 'round about, yeah.
About how long in relationship from the first incident?
Probably, maybe, it wasn't even a couple of days. Probably, maybe about three days.
Oh, it was right after that?
Yeah, yeah, it was back to back, yeah.
Yeah, probably about three days or so, you know. And Evens called me up on the cell phone and I forgot exactly how much he was asking me for, you know, but whatever it was, you know, I used to ride around anyway with money, a lot of money in my pocket, you know, over $20,000, you know, at least. I would at least have -- I used to not never leave the house without having $20,000 in my pocket, you know.
Don't leave home without it?
Yeah, that's the god's honest truth. I really did, you know. So at that time Evens had called me and asked me. I don't know exactly how much it was, but whatever I had in my pocket. I was close by the building already, by the office, you know.
When he called you, did he tell you what it was for?
Yeah, it was for Art.
He told you that time it was for Art?
What did you do?
Actually, he told me he needed it right then. He was talking like a favor, like, "Listen, man, this is very important," whatever, right. He said, "I need" -- I don't know if need 25,000 or 20 or whatever it was, but he said he needed a certain amount of money, and I was like, "What's up?" He said, "I need to pay Art to do something," whatever, right.
He said, "I need to pay Art?"
"I need to pay Art."
To do what?
He didn't say what, but "I need to pay Art to do something." That's what he said, you know. As a matter of fact, those was his exact words, you know, "I need to pay Art to do something," right, and I was like, "Well, Evens," I said, "I don't think I got that kind of money on me right now." He said, "What you got?" and I said, "I don't know," but I know what I had in my pocket. So whatever it was, you know, I didn't give him everything I had, you know. I probably, I know I had -- if not exactly -- I didn't have exactly $20,000 because I was out half that day, because I was out that day, I had a little female with me, buying this and that.
Who was in the car with you?
Who was with me? Let me think.
Just close your eyes and you'll see her face.
I'm gonna tell you in a minute. I can see her, but I can't think of her name. One of my ladies. Man, who was it?
Well, do you want to move on and see if it comes to you later on?
Yeah, we can. It will come to me.
Okay, so anyway, there was a lady in the car with you and we will try to work on her name, okay?