Taking on the world's problems ain't easy, and Mullin realizes that for most people, getting involved is the hardest part. "It's so easy to feel apathetic. I do a lot of stuff and I still feel that way." And, Agell adds, "There's always going to be poverty and war and liars, we understand that. The whole idea is to perhaps raise people's consciousness a little bit, and maybe they can act upon what they hear and cut through the lies."
It's important to note at this point that, although C.O.C.'s music and beliefs are very heavy, the guys themselves are not. "We're not some kind of messengers from God or anything," Agell insists. "I'm all for drinking and having a good time as well. We don't want to come off as a bunch of priests. The thing we want to instill in people is that politics doesn't have to be boring. It can be fun and dangerous and out of control. Instead of promoting a nerdy liberalism, I'd like to promote more of a radical lust for life. Not in the sense of getting drunk and plowing into a bunch of people...."
Agell chuckles. "Unless Jesse Helms is sleeping in the middle of the road.